Is ELP against christianity

You have a preety overactive imagination if you expect me to believe that you never heard of God untill you were 15 and you live in the US.

I don't give a damn what Maugham's argues. He sais we are so "innocent, weak and powerless", well it is easier than you think it is to follow God. Our temptations arn't that hard to resist. God isn't "furious" with those who don't believe in him, He loves everyone. I would praise someone who created me and gave me the right to choose eternal happiness, you would think everyone would. As for people being "imperfect" they are not born that way, they grew up that way and made bad choices along the way, if you were to argue that by saying, "What if their parents made them have a bad life, make bad decisions." then I would say that the power of prayer is strong and nothing in the world can stop someone from praying, unless you can read minds. Because people through time have grown away from God, that led to countries not worshiping him and that happend for a reason according to God.

You have a preety overactive imagination if you expect me to believe that you never heard of God untill you were 15 and you live in the US.

I don't give a damn what Maugham's argues. He sais we are so "innocent, weak and powerless", well it is easier than you think it is to follow God. Our temptations arn't that hard to resist. God isn't "furious" with those who don't believe in him, He loves everyone. I would praise someone who created me and gave me the right to choose eternal happiness, you would think everyone would. As for people being "imperfect" they are not born that way, they grew up that way and made bad choices along the way, if you were to argue that by saying, "What if their parents made them have a bad life, make bad decisions." then I would say that the power of prayer is strong and nothing in the world can stop someone from praying, unless you can read minds. Because people through time have grown away from God, that led to countries not worshiping him and that happend for a reason according to God.

AtomHeartMother wrote: Find me where it sais that "children born with brain dissorders, kids with misfortune to die before they can read will go to hell."

Bible says that people who do not believe in Jesus will go to hell. Tell me wether a kid who dies just after his birth believes in Jesus. Tell me if the wretched cretin with a damaged brain who has no ability even to think he needs to eat [he would die of starvation if nurses did not feed him], tell me if he has the ability to even think of Jesus, let alone "believe in Jesus". He probably never heard of him anyway. Besides, I never really heard of Jesus or God before I was 15. If I died at 14, would I be to blame?

I have been listening to Prog since I was 13. A born-again, Bible believing Christian since 28. I have been saved for nearly 20 years, am currently a member of an old time Baptist church, have read the KJV 1611 Bible from cover to cover more times then I remember and have preached the Word 100's of times from pulpits, on street corners, in rescue missions, care homes and more places that I can remember. Though i have been Born again, and much of my life has changed and most of my old sins have passed away, there remains some things that have not. i still surf, enjoy an occasional cold beer and I still love Prog! many of my brethren are apalled or even offended that i still listen to the music of the world, but God knows my heart, I love Prog.. Now, to the issue at hand, is ELP against christianity? Or are ELP against Christ?

  First of all, The Bible states " Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-Christ, that denieth both the Father and the Son....1 John 2:22

       According to the Bible, any man that denys the Diety of the man Christ is a liar and is anti-Christ and for that one could say that Greg Lake (if he be the writing of those lyrics is certainly anti-Christ) as with so many other artist. Christ said "  He that is not with me is against me"..Matt. 12:30  This is the "narrow minded"  doctrine of the Christian faith that so many despise and I believe..

 But the second point to be made is the fact that many of these men are not so much against Christ as they are against the hypocrisy of what has become know as "Christianity" We all can see how the professed churches of  our day have become sepulchres of Hypocrisy and the life of the religion, it;s buildings and it's assests is of far more impotance then the life of a soul, and I often find this attitude against the churches Hypocrisy prevalent is music. And to this I agree. A classic example of this is the song "Wind up" from Aqualung. Anderson slams the Bishops and their  hypocrisys while all the while crying out "He is not the kind you have to wind up on Sunday!" I must stop. Against Christ? It is to their shame.. Against the hypocrisy of religion? I say AMEN.....

Arteum wrote: AtomHeartMother wrote: Find me where it sais that "children born with brain dissorders, kids with misfortune to die before they can read will go to hell." Bible says that people who do not believe in Jesus will go to hell. Tell me wether a kid who dies just after his birth believes in Jesus. Tell me if the wretched cretin with a damaged brain who has no ability even to think he needs to eat [he would die of starvation if nurses did not feed him], tell me if he has the ability to even think of Jesus, let alone "believe in Jesus". He probably never heard of him anyway. Besides, I never really heard of Jesus or God before I was 15. If I died at 14, would I be to blame?

The newborn infant who dies will not automatically "go to hell."

The "wretched cretin" with brain damage will not "go to hell."

If you had never heard of Christ, and had died at the age of 14, you would not have "gone to hell."

Wow, you're aren't familiar with the facts, Jack! And you are wholly unfamiliar with the concept of mercy. Please, do us all a favor and zip it. Everyone thinks you're a comedian, anyway.

Arteum wrote: Don't even start me on the Bible.  I and my friends, when we were younger, took some pains to see that it is a total bunk. And, believe me, we were and are pretty smart. At least we were able to go through the challenges of science which turned out an insurmountable obstacle for you.

If you were using the KJV, sure, you'll find contextual discrepancies. You need to go back to the original Greek version, and understand everything properly in the context that it was intended, as it was written for the peoples of those times.

"Translation": you and your friends, who "were and are pretty smart," probably got nowhere.

Hey, for such a smart dude, your diction could use some brushing up...

Now...let's get back to the music!!!!

Wormboy wrote: However, there is the line here: "how could he lose 6 million Jews."  This is asking the question, "how could a benevolent God allow such horrors in the world?"  With my religious upbringing, I know the theological answer to this, but maybe you'll admit that it is a subtle point missed by many.

There's a practical answer, too: man possesses free will. And often enough, as a result of this free will, some men believe themselves to be gods who are able to "pass judgment" on others. Therein lies the problem.

Arteum wrote: Don't even start me on the Bible.  I and my friends, when we were younger, took some pains to see that it is a total bunk. And, believe me, we were and are pretty smart. At least we were able to go through the challenges of science which turned out an insurmountable obstacle for you.

If you were using the KJV, sure, you'll find contextual discrepancies. You need to go back to the original Greek version, and understand everything properly in the context that it was intended, as it was written for the peoples of those times.

"Translation": you and your friends, who "were and are pretty smart," probably got nowhere.

Hey, for such a smart dude, your diction could use some brushing up...

Now...let's get back to the music!!!!