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JrKASperov 
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 Posted: May 03 2005 at 15:39 |
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Acid is a powerfull drug, but I dont think its
affects the individual permenantly unless they have done an enormous
amount over along period of time, OR the user is predisposed to mental
and emotional anguish anyway. LSD can trigger the onset of
schizophrenia in some users in that category, but this is
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There is just need of one example to disprove it, and my brother
knows someone who has had chronic psychosis from a trip. So what you
think is irrelevant, that LSD is dangerous is a fact.
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 16:17 |
JrKASperov wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Acid is a powerfull drug, but I dont think its affects the individual permenantly unless they have done an enormous amount over along period of time, OR the user is predisposed to mental and emotional anguish anyway. LSD can trigger the onset of schizophrenia in some users in that category, but this is apparently rare. |
There is just need of one example to disprove it, and my brother knows someone who has had chronic psychosis from a trip. So what you think is irrelevant, that LSD is dangerous is a fact.
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Agreed it's dangerous for some, and the same can be said of all drugs including alcohol. The difference with booze is that it kills over 30,000 people every year in the UK, but the powers that be deem that acceptable in the name of raising revenue.
If you spend much of your young years in the company of habitual drug users you can expect a casualty to emerge from the 'good times' eventually.
The best defence is indeed to leave well alone.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 16:21 |
i love Alcohol 
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Joren
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 16:30 |
alcohol for me
weed is ok too
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synthguy
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 20:18 |
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I could have gone with the first three, I guess.
Which has caused the most problems in my life?
Looking at the list, been there. Done that.
I have partied out most of my life.
God bless those who can use casually.
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Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest...
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 13:59 |
JrKASperov wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Acid is a powerfull drug, but I dont think its
affects the individual permenantly unless they have done an enormous
amount over along period of time, OR the user is predisposed to mental
and emotional anguish anyway. LSD can trigger the onset of
schizophrenia in some users in that category, but this is
apparently rare. |
There is just need of one example to disprove it, and my brother
knows someone who has had chronic psychosis from a trip. So what you
think is irrelevant, that LSD is dangerous is a fact.
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That's very rare in fact.
Take ke9 for example, he used to be an acid head and...
hmm...sorry, it's not a good exemple 
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illustrated
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 16:55 |
Hm, I'm really curious about something...
I'm just wondering, what kind of people should do acid? Well, not should do, but are more safe to do it than most people... And, what kind of people definitely should never even go near it?
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James Lee
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:00 |
I did a LOT of acid, and I turned out okay.
Me too.
And me.
Don't listen to them, they're always plotting against me.
Did anybody else see that?
Shh, they'll suspect something.
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:04 |
illustrated wrote:
Hm, I'm really curious about something...
I'm just wondering, what kind of people should do acid? Well, not should do, but are more safe to do it than most people... And, what kind of people definitely should never even go near it?
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Like James Lee said, don't use it on your own, at least have someone else present. When you are experienced enough you can use it whenever you like, then there will alway's be someone to watch you.
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illustrated
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:06 |
Not helping!
tuxon wrote:
illustrated wrote:
Hm, I'm really curious about something...
I'm just wondering, what kind of people should do acid? Well, not should do, but are more safe to do it than most people... And, what kind of people definitely should never even go near it?
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Like James Lee said, don't use it on your own, at least have someone else present. When you are experienced enough you can use it whenever you like, then there will alway's be someone to watch you.
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Yeah, I'd definitely have someone around... but is it important to have someone who isn't doing acid?
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:10 |
illustrated wrote:
Hm, I'm really curious about something...
I'm just wondering, what kind of people should do acid? Well, not should do, but are more safe to do it than most people... And, what kind of people definitely should never even go near it?
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Funny thing about acid (or anything else, really)...you may not realize you're at risk for negative psychological effects untill it happens. I would definitely avoid acid if you have a tendency for a negative self-image or a short temper, but conversely it could also mitigate those tendencies...like the man said, it's all a big roll of the dice. If you're fairly comfortable with yourself (and not too easily freaked out), you'll probably be okay. But there's no guarantee of anything in life, and curiousity is often rewarded with danger.
My advice to anyone new to it is to remember to remind yourself, every once in while during the trip: "Don't freak out, it's all just the acid and it will be over in a little while." 
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:26 |
It's also very important to be in the very good state of mind when you do it.
Cause the emotionnal state is amplified by acid.
Moreover, badtrips happen when your ego resists.
Like said Jerry Garcia, the best acid trips where those when you totally forget yourself.
Then , you can reach the nirvana
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illustrated
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:26 |
James Lee wrote:
illustrated wrote:
Hm, I'm really curious about something...
I'm just wondering, what kind of people should do acid? Well, not should do, but are more safe to do it than most people... And, what kind of people definitely should never even go near it?
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Funny thing about acid (or anything else, really)...you may not realize you're at risk for negative psychological effects untill it happens. I would definitely avoid acid if you have a tendency for a negative self-image or a short temper, but conversely it could also mitigate those tendencies...like the man said, it's all a big roll of the dice. If you're fairly comfortable with yourself (and not too easily freaked out), you'll probably be okay. But there's no guarantee of anything in life, and curiousity is often rewarded with danger.
My advice to anyone new to it is to remember to remind yourself, every once in while during the trip: "Don't freak out, it's all just the acid and it will be over in a little while."
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Cool, thanks. [and thanks to oliverstoned as well]
What about shrooms?
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goose
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:47 |
illustrated wrote:
Yeah, I'd definitely have someone around... but is it important to have someone who isn't doing acid?
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Yes!
Shrooms aren't quite such a problem though - you can start off with say 10g and work up - that said, how strong they are is very unpredictable - I had 30 on my first trip and was fine [no one sober around until my friend's parents got home, pretty weird experience when I wanted to run around outside and I was just staring at my shoes which weren't tied, my mate's mum asked if I could do them up - I managed, just about], just a little hazy and weird movement but my friends had 30 of the same type and had completely mad trips.
With acid, however (I'm not speaking from experience here, so anyone feel free to correct me), it's even less easy to tell how strong a tab is, because of the way it's broken down very quickly and triggers something else.
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illustrated
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:56 |
goose wrote:
illustrated wrote:
Yeah, I'd definitely have someone around... but is it important to have someone who isn't doing acid?
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Yes!
Shrooms aren't quite such a problem though - you can start off with say 10g and work up - that said, how strong they are is very unpredictable - I had 30 on my first trip and was fine [no one sober around until my friend's parents got home, pretty weird experience when I wanted to run around outside and I was just staring at my shoes which weren't tied, my mate's mum asked if I could do them up - I managed, just about], just a little hazy and weird movement but my friends had 30 of the same type and had completely mad trips.
With acid, however (I'm not speaking from experience here, so anyone feel free to correct me), it's even less easy to tell how strong a tab is, because of the way it's broken down very quickly and triggers something else.
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Well, I hear most people start off with quite a bit less than that (about 2g). 10g seems like an awful lot, but then again like you said, I guess it depends on what you get. Quite a few people around here do mushrooms, and so so many smoke pot.. [west coast British Columbia, Vancouver Island]
Some of the best pot in the world here.
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 22:52 |
Haven't broken the law since 1996 ... which makes me a rum and vodka man these days ...
but in the early 90s I did take 43 trips on 61 tabs ... and I can't believe I'm the only one whose fave is the ol' lysergic acid ... I remember I discovered Selling England By The Pound while high on it (umm) ... although a nice mix of lucy and mary-jane would be my ultimate choice ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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illustrated
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 00:14 |
Trotsky wrote:
Haven't broken the law since 1996 ... which makes me a rum and vodka man these days ...
but in the early 90s I did take 43 trips on 61 tabs ... and I can't believe I'm the only one whose fave is the ol' lysergic acid ... I remember I discovered Selling England By The Pound while high on it (umm) ... although a nice mix of lucy and mary-jane would be my ultimate choice ...
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That's pretty awesome. I can imagine a lot of prog being very heavy on acid..
I remember the first time listened to CTTE really stoned. My god..
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 02:07 |
Trust me: Golden Throats vol.1 on acid...that'll really blow your mind.
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illustrated
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 02:29 |
James Lee wrote:
Trust me: Golden Throats vol.1 on acid...that'll really blow your mind.
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Golden Throats?? 
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 03:02 |
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