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rushaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Happy to see fellow Rush fans expressing their opinions! I agree that they are unique and where to actually put them is a matter of opinion. Art rock is fine I guess. I don't really consider them prog-metal though. Maybe, as others have suggested, a kind of classic prog or something. Regardless, they are awesome. |
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16843 |
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Well, RUsh started off as a Hard Rock band, then later involved into a Progressive Hard Rock, then in 80s, the synth, Prog, dance, pop, rock, metal, whatever you want to call it. Like most people said, Rush is in a breed of their own. |
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DavidInsabella ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 317 |
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Life seemed to him merely like a gallery of how to be.
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toothpick2112 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Maybe we can just call them in a new genre. We can call the genre "Rush Rock".
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16843 |
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Yep |
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Publius ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 14 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 382 |
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That would make sense. On Windows Media Player Tag Editor, where you choose the genre, they have one called 'Primus' because they are unclassifiable. Just like Rush. Which is an odd coincidence as Geddy Lee is Les Claypool's Idol.
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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Arsillus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7374 |
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The genres of progressive rock musicA planet where quite much progressive rock music played in earth. Can, Caravan, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Jethro Tull , King Crimson , Genesis, Magma, PFM, Pink Floyd, Rush, Marillion, Yes, the much-discussed newscomers Arena, IQ, Pendragon, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree and many other bands come from there. One of the most defining characteristics of prog is the classification of bands and artists. There are various sub-genres of progressive rock (or "prog", as it is sometimes abbreviated). People can (and will) argue for hours about whether this or that band belongs in this or that sub-genre. This list below is just a simple outline of the characteristics of each sub-genre, and by NO means a strict guideline. Remember, this is not a definitive list. SUB-GENRES
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Cesar Inca ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 4888 |
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I agree! I like the "Progressive Hard Rock" label as it sounds and for what it hinhts at - it would be quite suitable for Rush and Kansas, just to name a couple of examples, although the reviewers for these two bands' albums should cpecify in which moments they get more art-rock oriented (e.g., Rush's 'Big Money', 'Red Sector A', Kansas' 'A Glimpse of Home'), more heavy rock-oriented (e.g., Rush's 'Anthem', Kansas' 'Lighning's Hand') or more overtly symphonic prog (e.g., Kansas' 'Song for America', 'Nobody's Home', 'Closet Chronicles', Rush's 'Xanadu'). But yes, I think the aforemantioned label would state things a bit clearer. Of course, there's no such thing as he perfect label, but we can reasonably create some who can be more clarifying than confusing. Regards. |
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plodder ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2004 Status: Offline Points: 255 |
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Badges!! We don't need no stinking badges.
Keep your labels and genres to yourselves. Rush are just a fantastic band. Stop trying to divide everything up into little boxes. Art rock, math rock blah blah blah. Call it what you want, it's all music to me. |
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Cesar Inca ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 4888 |
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So, Paco de Lucía is just a guitarist, not a Flamenco guitarist, right? If we drop labels and badges, how are we supposed to assimilate and enjoy, with the ehart and mind, the music provided by musicians? De Lucía's music shouts out its Flamenco label, doesn't it? Perceiving him as merely an un-badged guitarist would mean missing the point absolutely. Watkins plays piano and so did Tchaikovsky - shall we call them merely pianists, without regarding the former as a prog-fusion-new age musician and the latter as an academic chamber composer? Madonna and Peter Hammill write the lyrics to their own songs - shall we put them together in one single "catalogue" as songwriters so we avoid badges we allegedly don't need? Agitation Free and Premiata Forneria Marconi both do music - should we stay beyond the distinction between krautrock and symphonic prog? Oh, and shuold we change the name of this website, too? - its name bears a badge, too.
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plodder ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2004 Status: Offline Points: 255 |
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Sorry. It's a pet peeve of mine.
Carry on with your disection of everything. I'll just listen to the music instead. |
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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Queen did with their debut and more so with Queen II. Then Metallica re-invented it 6 years before "Images and Words", which is just an extension of what Metallica did. And that's being kind. Categories, schmategories - it's all prog! |
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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So,that's Queen's genre-problem solved then! Queen are a prog-metal band if they've ever been prog................. With their 3rd album they invented Prog-Lite and more so with their 4th. Their 5th album invented Progressive p*p and their 6th album launched Progressive Decline!
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Cygnus X-2 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 24 2004 Location: Bucketheadland Status: Offline Points: 21342 |
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A bit off topic, but still about Rush. One day in one of my classes this year, I was listening to Different Stages, and the guy next to me wanted to listen to my CD player. I reluctantly gave him my cd player, and the first song he listened to was Nobody's Hero. When the song was over, he turned to me and said, "Are these guys a gay band?" It made me so angry! |
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Bilek ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484 |
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Thanks for your appreciation first. Second, we don't need to "create" a sub-genre, IMHO... Some forum member (Ivan, I suppose) objected this idea of mine saying "we don't create sub-genres, it is there or no" or whatever... I believe prog-hard rock is there since, at least, 1971 (DP's Fireball album), and at least one prog rock site lists it (I didn't check any other names than DP, and forgot the site, but surely Rush and Kansas is there) No need to subsegment a group into smaller parts, I believe one comprising sub-genre is enough! Regards... |
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
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