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claudio.junior ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: August 04 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Hi there people. I've searched the internet looking for bands like Spastic ink and Spiral Architect. I only found WatchTower and Ron Jarzombek project solos. Please, any one knows more bands with spastic and spiral stylles? |
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16916 |
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Zero Hour |
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4076 |
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I also think you should like MAUDLIN OF THE WELL
Terrific album ! And a great review by Bryan !
![]() Maudlin of the Well is truly one of modern music's most creative bands. Not creative in the all-out, over the top RIO kind of way, nor in the drugged out, noisy krautrock kind of way. MotW are essentially a metal band, but if you're the type of person who has an allergic reaction to prog-metal then you need not worry. Bath is the more melodic counterpart to its heavier "companion" album Leaving Your Body Map, and makes a point to shatter every imaginable convention in metal. This collective of musicians from Boston has taken both prog and metal into realms unseen with this album, which is why it's an essential part of any prog collection. Sadly, that's also why it's forever doomed to remain an obscure release by an unknown band. Trying to describe the actual music contained on Bath could easily take up the entire length of this review. The band has an uncanny ability to shift from dreamlike space-rock to crushing death metal right back to melodic acoustic muisc, sometimes all in one song. This makes Bath an unpredictable listen, as you never know what direction the music will turn to next. Alongside the more conventional prog instruments, the band also utilizes the kind of instruments you wouldn't expect from a prog-metal band. Everything from trumpet to flute can be heard in Maudlin of the Well's music, not to mention acoustic guitar and clean vocals more delicate than you'd ever expect from a metal band. If you enter this album with the expectation of continually rocking out (as I admittedly did, to an extent), the 8 minute opening track will, to say the very least, throw you off. Opening with a lone guitar part that sounds like the intro to Yes' "Roundabout" put into an ambient setting, this one sparse guitar is eventually joined by an acoustic guitar and a horn instrument. Eventually the track's main theme is introduced by the acoustic guitar, before it fades back into silence. The band returns a few seconds later continuing the delicate sound. Eventually the main theme is reprised, putting the listener into a hypnotized state. Yet as the track winds down, an electric guitar joins in and the song promptly fades out. There is no possible way that the band could have devised a better introduction to the album, preparing the listener for the journey ahed. "They Aren't All Beautiful" starts off as a fairly conventional metal song, death growls and all. It's not until a freakout about 1:20 in that the song really gets going, as the pace is suddenly slowed down for a massive riff. It's also here that things start to get more technical, with a stop-start section entering, given an exclamation point by a strange yet somehow extremely catchy repeating guitar riff. The song then launches into a heavy instrumental section, after which the song appears to be over. The initial theme is then reprised briefly for a viscious ending. Every remaining song on the album leans towards one of those two styles, rarely staying entirely with one. That said, by the time the slow, dramatic third track "Heaven and Weak" kicks in, the album's cosmic mood and hypnotic feel will surely have gotten to you. Very few albums are able to induce the trace-like state that Bath will leave you in, but somehow despite the heavy guitar riffs that emerge throughout it, it's difficult not to be completely drawn into the music presented, which in my opinion is Bath's finest attribute. Both the harder rocking songs ("The Ferryman", which contains an organ of all instruments, the soaring prog-metal epic "Birth Pains of Astral Projection") and the more melodic ones (" Marid's Gift of Art", "Geography") are flawlessly executed and brilliantly composed, leaving Bath without anything even remotely resembling a weak moment. When they try to be loud and agressive, MotW do it phenomenally, when they want to be melodic and sentimental, they're liable to break your heart with their music (which I mean in the best way possible). If you're prepared to be challenged by your prog diet, yet at the same time want something completely listenable, Maudlin of the Well is for you. DO NOT let the prog-metal tag scare you off, this is as progressive as progressive rock can be, and to dismiss it on the basis of a few heavier parts will be the biggest mistake you ever make as a prog listener. It's not often that I'm prepared to consider an album among my favorites of all time less than a week after first hearing it (in fact, this may very well be the soonest I've ever fallen so deeply in love with an album), but I have to make an exception for Bath. Sadly, it's been discontinued, so finding a copy could prove challenging, but if you take my advice on one thing this year, make it this album. That said, if you're more of a metalhead than a proghead and just want something you can headbang to, don't bother. Even when this is heavy, it's far from headbanging music, and VERY far from any other metal band. Edited by M@X |
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Prog On !
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Infinity ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 24 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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Check out some Marco Minneman for some pretty nutbar drumming |
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vogre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 14 2005 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 189 |
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The two first Psychotic Waltz albums: A Social Grace and Into The Everflow contain many of the elements spiral architect uses. Highly recommended. Also check Voivod and Sieges Even, both are pretty mathematical.
If you are not afraid of very high math and heavy music listen to The Dillinger Escape Plan and Meshuggah.
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4076 |
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Absolutely Right !!! Sieges Even , Sophisticated (OOP
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riversdancing ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 31 2005 Status: Offline Points: 143 |
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Cheers mate ![]() My recommendations are: Atheist - Unquestionable Presence, Elements Behold...The Arctopus (instumental) - all (they have only a few Ep's I think) Canvas Solaris (instrumental) - Spatial/Design, Sublimation Cynic - Focus Lethargy - Discography '93-'99 Mekong Delta - Dances Of Death, Kaleidoscope, Visions Fugitives, Pictures At An Exhibition Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace, Into The Everflow Sieges Even - Life Cycle Gordian Knot - Gordian Knot Similar, but not so complex techno/thrash bands (among others): Coroner, Voivod,Toxik, Realm, + new bands such as Degree Absolute, Linear Sphere |
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Minstrel X ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 23 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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You can also listen to Sleeptime Gorilla Museum, Maudlin in the Well, Zero Hour, Meshuggah (of Course) and Solefald (Not really technical or Mathematical, but way strange music they play)
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Minstrel X: Burning down the gallery
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Andreas ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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If you like Spiral Architect, I recomand you to check out "Twisted into form". This band consists of Spiral Architect ex-member Kaj Gornitzka. As far as I've heard they have just finished their debut album. You can download their demo here;
http://www.twistedintoform.no/ Edited by Andreas |
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aniwolfe ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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Do yourself a favor and check out ALARUM mp3 samples to check out http://www.willowtip.com/store/product_detail.aspx?id=3& r=128
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Cynic - Focus
Atheist - Unquesitonable Presence Meshuggah - I Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow Gorguts - Obscura Control Denied - The Fragile Art of Existence Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within Maudlin of the Well - Bath (thank you Max ![]() |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21628 |
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I'm surprised that noone mentioned this gem so far: Power of Omens - Eyes of the Oracle
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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riversdancing has covered pretty much everything I'd suggest. All I have to offer is the last Arcturus album. Apparently having changed singer to the Spiral Architect guy their sound when much more in a technical direction. I haven't heard it though, but it should be good judging from the first couple of albums (which aren't tech though!)
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MAVIII ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2008 Location: Los Angeles Cal Status: Offline Points: 63 |
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Hi Claudio,
Wow, a question from 2005 and I JUST joined, well . . . Heres a few more that you may have discovered by now: 1. Continuo Renacer' 2. Katagory V 3. Meshuggah ("Destroy Erase Improve" is a good start) 4. Cea Serin 5. Watchtower 6. Spastik Ink 7. Athiest 8. Confessor 9. Realm 10. Twisted Into Form 11. Canvas Solaris 12. Psychotic Waltz 13. Thought Industry (their 1st 2) 14. Frederik Thorndendal's "Special Defects, Sol Niger Within" (Lead Guitarist for Meshuggah's only Solo Album) 15. Cynic 16. Disillusion 17. Linear Sphere 18. Zero Hour 19. Prototype 20. Powermad 21. Sabbat ("Mourning has Broken", 1st 2 are GREAT as well but more Thrash/ Extreme) 22. Behold... the Arctopus 23. Fates Warning (as in "Awaken the Guardian" and "No Exit") 24. Believer 25. Anacrusis 26. Control Denied (as well as Chuck Shuldiners Death from "Human" on) 27. Cacophony (-Speed Metal Synphony) 28. Marty Friedman (-Dragons Kiss) 29. Andromeda I'd add: 30. Seiges Even 31. Gordian Knot 32. Addition By Subtraction (+x-) . . . as well, but they are not as aggressive/heavy as Spiral A. That should tide you over, but also join my friends at Progulus.com where almost every Sub-genre of Prog is represented there, and alot of nice people chat LIVE from all over the world!: http://www.progulus.com/rprweb/playing.php Im sure you will find even more "Math Metal" :D Seems many from Progulus know about this Forum as well. Prog On all. (note: always wanted to hear Maudlin of the Well and Alarum sound GREAT! thanx) Edited by MAVIII - January 02 2008 at 18:13 |
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frantic ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 07 2007 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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Nobody has talked about BLOTTED SCIENCE here 'till now...
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hunger for more prog can never be quenched.
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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Awesome! I'd totally forgotten this was happening, thanks for the heads up! Sounds pretty fun. |
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Sleep Terror- Probing Tranquility
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![]() Electrocution 250-Electric Cartoon Music From Hell
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Death
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asimplemistake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 840 |
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Zero Hour is highly recommended because they are complex while still having an overall full sound and good songwriting. Also look into Electrocution 250 (as said by Majestic_Mayhem), their music is complex and extremely fun/funny.
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