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    Posted: April 21 2005 at 04:27

i have realized that uriah heep is here involved. clear, should be, if not for anything else, for july morning definitely. but then:

it is coming to my mind

it is clear like a day after night

deep purple must be in this site!

if not for anything else, for april, concerto and in rock definitely.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 04:36

Well, from start they were a progressive band (Mk 1-era), and in the beginning of Mk 2, but later on they invented heavy metal...but of course, I can't here the difference between some Pallas-albums and Backyard babies...so what the h**l, include them...Cheers:)

Ps. But there are other bands in line, before DP, IMO  Ds.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 04:51
Well, Uriah Heep is described as "prog metal" band... In my opinion, there should be such bands as Rainbow ( their music was very close to art rock... ), Queen, Deep Purple (you're right, Vlado!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 04:52

My friend Vlado, Once again I have to agree with your sentiment - Deep Purple should be in here for the very reasons you gave. Especially the classic Purple line-up -  Lord, Blackmore, Glover, Gillan and Paice. They gave us one of the indisputed King of Live albums "Made in Japan" - think "Lazy" and "Space Truckin" and of course the classic "Child In Time". Most progressive was the "Concerto For Group and Orchestra" - IMO underatted and a genuinely great effort  by Jon Lord to meld the 2 disciplines.

However....if Deep Purple get into the archives, then so should Led Zepplin !! and individuals such as Bjork or Nick Cave...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 05:31

Deep Purple is one of my Favourite Bands!

So yes they should be added to the Archives!

Also I beleive IRON BUTTERFLY and BLACK SABBATH should be given a place in the Archives too!

Possibly CREAM and LED ZEPPELIN as well?

They are the first people to do Heavy Metal with Prog/Psychedelic Elements.

RAINBOW is another good band too!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 06:51
Deep Purple are not a prog band but they had a clear prog tendency in some songs! Jon Lord was the progressive element in the band - April, Concerto...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 07:00

Originally posted by terramystic terramystic wrote:

Deep Purple are not a prog band but they had a clear prog tendency in some songs! Jon Lord was the progressive element in the band - April, Concerto...

exactly

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 07:44
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

Deep Purple is one of my Favourite Bands!

So yes they should be added to the Archives!

Also I beleive IRON BUTTERFLY and BLACK SABBATH should be given a place in the Archives too!

Possibly CREAM and LED ZEPPELIN as well?

They are the first people to do Heavy Metal with Prog/Psychedelic Elements.

RAINBOW is another good band too!

We're doooooomed Mr Manoring, doooomed!!

The crack in the dyke is becoming a huge hole - and soon the dyke will fall down allowing the whole of pop rock jazz classical world folk to flood in and be called progressive rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 08:28

We need more prog-purists.

Does anybody know what real progressive music is?

I'm not an expert, but bands like Led Zepp, Deep P, Queen, Rainbow, etc. are very good, they use symphonic elements to enhance their sound, but they are not progressive rock bands.

Progressive rock is a name, and the litteral meaning of the word progressive is not ment to be taken into account when describing progressive rock.

 

It's all watering down, people who like to add these mentioned bands into this site, are the same that delute single malt whiskey with ice and water

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 08:49

Well, I like DEEP PURPLE very much, in special the MK3, with Coverdale & Hughes ("Mistreated" & "A-200"  have prog elements), but the band IS NOT Prog Rock.

I think some guys are making great mistakes, confounding what is prog and what is a good rock band. I really don't like some bands in the site, but they are prog, and I don't discuss this. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 09:41

I know prog...better then most, that's not me, tying to show off, it's a fact...so u r free to ask me:) Sorry folks, Deep Purple isn't a prog-band, they were during mark 1 and early mark 2, perhaps, but not a genuin prog-band...they are what I call quality-rock, though, but that's NOT the same as prog. Cheers:)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 09:51
Where will it all end?.................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 09:59
I think they had some progrock tendencies, especially on first albums, but the bluesrock and hardrock dominated. They are not more progressive than Uriah Heep or Led Zeppelin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 10:00

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Where will it all end?.................

Meaning what?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 10:07

Stop this now!!!!

I love Deep Purple,I am a 30 odd year fan-but they are not,I REPEAT,NOT,a prog rock band!!!
They absorbed elements from the prog scene at that time but at heart they're still an electric blues heavy rock band and so are the equally wonderful Led Zep. I love Rainbow too,but I think you are confusing their love of keyboards,and Blackmore's plundering of Classical Music with true progressive rock.

Since You've Been Gone? Long Live RockNRoll???? LOL

Dont make me larf.Confused

Stargazer,Gates Of Babylon etc are not Prog Rock tracks,but they are wonderful examples of more sophisticated heavy rock.Big smile




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 10:17
Originally posted by lostrom lostrom wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Where will it all end?.................

Meaning what?

I think Reed Lover sums it up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 10:21

i totally agree with reed lover!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 10:32
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by lostrom lostrom wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Where will it all end?.................

Meaning what?

I think Reed Lover sums it up

Ok, now I see...yes I agree...the question perhaps should be if Uriah Heep fits in? I don't think so. Sorry about my question, I did in fact not understand, always had huge problems reading in between the lines and "de-coding" women-language (my problem). Cheers:)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 10:36
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

We need more prog-purists.

Does anybody know what real progressive music is?

 

I know what I mean by progressive rock, but it isn't identical to Dallas Bryan's or others'  who think and write deeply here - but we overlap significantly. Once for the first 4 or 5 years it was literal rock that progressed - but as new options for progression disappeared, the successful bands stabilised having found some aspect  of the genre with which they were comfortable and fans enjoyed. In deed Deep Purple's early albums were prog (even up to In Rock)  - they were an early signing to EMI's prog label Harvest - but considering the range of music to heard in the first 30 Harvest releases, we are talking progressive music as opposed to the narrowed progressive rock - clues at:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse /-/1PJO0ACOKFNS0/026-4013407-5278830

However, a small percentage of of DP's albums are prog and if somebdoy wants to argue them into the forthcoming(?) sub-section covering bands who are not really prog but have do the odd track or two, (e.g. Wishbone Ash, Spooky Tooth, Queen) let's go with that - but don't make Progarchives a  greater laughing stock because we don't have clear ideas about the constituents of progressive rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 11:11
Especially you younger folks, you have to understand what was going on musically in the early seventies and late sixties.  Modern rock was new then.  It presented a vast expanse of unexplored territory and all the bands were experimenting looking for their sound.  It was a very wonderful and fertile time musically, and in many other ways as well.  At the time there were no labels such as progressive, art rock, etc., just a bunch of talented players flying high with new and unhindered creativity.  The labels came later.  So now we look back and say, well Deep Purple and Uriah Heep had progressive elements, and etc.  It leaves the argument of whether this or that band is 'progressive' or not mute.  Perhaps we have gotten too catagory friendly these days.  Draw the lines on a catagory and all of the sudden you have limits that hinder what being progressive is all about.  That's one of the things that made that time so interesting, no defined limits.  Creativity doesn't like them.


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