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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:36 | |
I was there! Why do you think I wasnt? I saw Def Lep too......NO WAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: April 19 2005 at 07:49 | |
They were part of the "New Wave of British Heavy Metal". Not only part of it, but one of the front runners of the genre - Def Leppard practically defined their corner of NWOBHM. As did Iron Maiden. I think you weren't there because you don't seem to understand what metal is, if you don't think that either Maiden or Leppard were it.
Would you like some ketchup with those words - or just salt?
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:00 | |
Of course I was ther I wasnt in a coma God forbid I should disagree with you!!!!! I saw Def leppard iI just said. you are patronising.
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:14 | |
Ok you obviously love your labels for bands. So lets just agree to differ, for me they aint HM for you they are. No problem
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:58 | |
You couldn't be more wrong about me and labels - the only labels I care about are the ones in the centre of the vinyl. You're basically disagreeing with me, everyone else in the known universe, and the bands themselves - which you're free to do, of course, but just a few bits and pieces that MAY help you realise your mistake - don't take my word for it;
(from an interview) Steve Harris starts talking first about the inspiration behind calling the band 'Iron Maiden'.
From the Encylopaedia Britannica; http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9096073
From just a few random places; http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:3zaqoa9a bijp~T1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/defleppard.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A425828 http://www.metal-rules.com/polls/top100/top100.htm (look at #2, #6, #7, #26, #33, #40, #47)
Or try Google - type in either band's name, and the words heavy metal, and see what pops up. Not convinced? You're wierd! I seriously think you must have been in a coma to have missed Def Leppard amidst all those other great heavy metal bands. Edited by Certif1ed |
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Reed Lover
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 16 2004 Location: Sao Tome and Pr Status: Offline Points: 5187 |
Posted: April 19 2005 at 16:43 | |
- 2 S.Dawg????????? You love bad-mouthing Collaborators!!! |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 04:18 | |
In what way am I bad mouthing Certified? Stop stirring! |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 04:27 | |
Ive already conceded that maiden are metal if you look at a previous post. Well gave in actually. Unconvinced about Leppard tho. For a start in that HM top 100 Led Zep IV is in there , and thats not metal! The BBc site actually calls Leppard "Melodic Rock". When does Hard/Heavy Rock become meatal anyway? |
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TBWART
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 130 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 04:30 | |
with the birth of Iron Maiden
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''progression is trying to eliminate boundries''
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TBWART
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 130 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 04:30 | |
and metallica
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''progression is trying to eliminate boundries''
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 05:12 | |
No
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TBWART
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 130 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 05:19 | |
oh...
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''progression is trying to eliminate boundries''
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 05:26 | |
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 08:37 | |
Iron Maiden were at the forefront of the NWOBHM - so they can't have been first... Interesting question! I could write an essay on it... Here's one someone else wrote earlier - I don't agree with all of it, but it definitely started with Blue Cheer. Prog Rock is pretentious Heavy Metal's even more pretentious little brother - and don't forget it!
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terramystic
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 776 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 10:49 | |
Quote from Wikipedia:
"The early heavy metal bands, like Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, UFO and Black Sabbath are often called hard rock bands rather than heavy metal, especially those bands whose sound was more similar to traditional rock music. In general, the terms heavy metal and hard rock are often used interchangeably, in particular when discussing the 1970s." Conclusion: 70's hard rock IS heavy metal. |
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terramystic
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 776 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 10:53 | |
If 70's bands (Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath...) weren't
heavy metal then 80's (and late 70's) bands wouldn't be called NEW WAVE of Brithish Heavy Metal!
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Reed Lover
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 16 2004 Location: Sao Tome and Pr Status: Offline Points: 5187 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 17:59 | |
You dont need Wikipedia:
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: April 20 2005 at 18:12 | |
Our definitions of HM have changed over the years. What was once considered HM isnt any more. Not by me anyway! So thereandand............I'll have a lie down now please
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King of Loss
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16536 |
Posted: April 22 2005 at 18:02 | |
I voted "No" because they are already there :) They are definitely my favorite Progressive artist, sorry Traditional Prog artists, but DT has already shattered it.
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anesthésie
Forum Newbie Joined: May 15 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Posted: May 15 2005 at 11:57 | |
really
what we can like in D.T ??? only portnoy is good O.S.I is really better
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