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TBWART
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 05:09 |
Seventies are gone, maybe in the next seventies...2070???
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''progression is trying to eliminate boundries''
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PROGMAN
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 05:06 |
PROG ROCK ERA is Dead!!
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Mr. Krinkle
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 01:39 |
Fantômas wrote:
I think that Radiohead is pretty close to reach "classic" status, if it didn't yet...
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maybe, but not as a prog band i think. i chose the Voltas, but i dummo
that they are going to be a clasic, well who knows, just history and
time can tell.
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Rob The Good
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 22:50 |
I honestly don't know. None of those bands really come close to the giants of old
Radiohead!
Umm....ok
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Abbath
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 20:44 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
Ok, my mistake. |
No prob.
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valravennz
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 19:44 |
Reed Lover wrote:
valravennz wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
There is no modern Prog Band destined to be considered a classic around at the moment.We are too divided on what constitutes "Prog Rock" to ever be in a position of assigning any group classic status.That would take a consensus of opinion that just doesnt exist. |
Interesting thought. I think this list constitutes perhaps what we would like to see happen as individuals, but probably will never happen to any of the above named groups. After all who would have thought that "Nirvana" who led the "Grunge" charge are now considered "classic"? Indeed what is today's definition of "Classic" ?
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Which is true of course,but Nirvana were always mainstream,these bands,excepting maybe TMV are not.There is no way that the majority of older Progsters are ever going to accept TMV as classic prog but the younger end might be in for a wonderful ride...
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Hmmm - ok - I agree there
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 19:16 |
valravennz wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
There is no modern Prog Band destined to be considered a classic around at the moment.We are too divided on what constitutes "Prog Rock" to ever be in a position of assigning any group classic status.That would take a consensus of opinion that just doesnt exist. |
Interesting thought. I think this list constitutes perhaps what we would like to see happen as individuals, but probably will never happen to any of the above named groups. After all who would have thought that "Nirvana" who led the "Grunge" charge are now considered "classic"? Indeed what is today's definition of "Classic" ?
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Which is true of course,but Nirvana were always mainstream,these bands,excepting maybe TMV are not.There is no way that the majority of older Progsters are ever going to accept TMV as classic prog but the younger end might be in for a wonderful ride...
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valravennz
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 19:11 |
Reed Lover wrote:
There is no modern Prog Band destined to be considered a classic around at the moment.We are too divided on what constitutes "Prog Rock" to ever be in a position of assigning any group classic status.That would take a consensus of opinion that just doesnt exist. |
Interesting thought. I think this list constitutes perhaps what we would like to see happen as individuals, but probably will never happen to any of the above named groups. After all who would have thought that "Nirvana" who led the "Grunge" charge are now considered "classic"? Indeed what is today's definition of "Classic" ?
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 18:07 |
There is no modern Prog Band destined to be considered a classic around at the moment.We are too divided on what constitutes "Prog Rock" to ever be in a position of assigning any group classic status.That would take a consensus of opinion that just doesnt exist.
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 17:59 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Prog is Dead, has been for 30 years. R.I.P. |
prog died in 1975?
man, and i thought rush was prog...
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 17:54 |
Abbath wrote:
alan_pfeifer wrote:
Abbath wrote:
None of these bands come even remotely close to the heights reached in the early-mid 70's.
The band that leads this poll, The Mars Volta, is IMO horrible and not even worth mention.
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Ture, but there's not a single genre of music who had their peak during the 70's that has been re-created (When's the last time your heard a Blues Rock band as good as Zeppelin
You really should try to open your mind a bit more. Yeah, TMV are a hard listen at times, but many of the other artists are making great music as well.
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My mind is plenty open. I've given both De-Loused and Frances a few good listens after reading about how amaizng the albums were and I just didn't like the albums at all. |
Ok, my mistake.
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richardh
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:51 |
MUSE
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gdub411
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:42 |
Deadwing12 wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
tuxon wrote:
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
rule of tumb. If Tuxon doesn't know it. it can't be popular
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I love Arena...unfortunately I do not think they have the following to berst out into the mainstream conscience....It would have to be a band that has caught the public eye to some extent....as well as relatively new(so that rules out Dream Theatre and Radiohead)...wich means perhaps The Mars Volta....personally I feel they are too dissonent to really capture the public ear...I still think the band is yet to come....but very soon...perhaps it will sneak up on us as did Nirvana when they kicked open the door for Alternative rock to become mainstream....I think The Mars Volta will crack open the door a bit, however.
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I don't know why the next band to gain classic status would have to be so new... After all, in one of the most Recent Rolling Stone magazines, they named the top 100 Immortals in the music industry, and Radiohead clocked in at aorund number 65...right behind AC/DC, so Hell...they're probably already modern classics, though not so much in the prog world.
The term "classic" doesn't necessarily mean quality. It could mean that a certain band made enough of an impact to be remembered for many years because they were unique and had a lot of fans, and also set a benchmark for many following bands. For that reason, both Dream Theater and (hopefully) the Mars Volta will be the most revered on this list... Also, Radiohead's already modern classic status in the rock world doesn't necessairly mean it will make it in the prog world...Led Zepplin is a Classic band, but not in the realm of prog
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My problem with Radiohead leading the charge is the mainstream media and public don't regard Radiohead as progressive rock. Also, Dream Theatre would have done it already. The fact that they haven't is an indication they never will.
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Logos
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:24 |
Based on success, I think it has to be The Mars Volta. After all, their
new album Frances the Mute was a huge commercial success, they we're
number 4 on the Billboard list, and that is extremely well for a prog
band. So they're albums might become well-known favourites not only
among progheads, but also among the average music consumers.
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Valarius
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 14:55 |
Dream Theater.
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Abbath
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:54 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
Abbath wrote:
None of these bands come even remotely close to the heights reached in the early-mid 70's.
The band that leads this poll, The Mars Volta, is IMO horrible and not even worth mention.
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Ture, but there's not a single genre of music who had their peak
during the 70's that has been re-created (When's the last time your
heard a Blues Rock band as good as Zeppelin
You really should try to open your mind a bit more. Yeah, TMV
are a hard listen at times, but many of the other artists are making
great music as well.
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My mind is plenty open. I've given both De-Loused and Frances a few
good listens after reading about how amaizng the albums were and I just
didn't like the albums at all.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:37 |
Other!!! My vote goes to GYBE! or Paatos.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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topographic2112
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:12 |
All of the above, IMO. I voted for TMV.
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Keke
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:12 |
I -would- say Opeth, but since I know just how much chance metal has to become a classic, I'll have to name Porcupine Tree.
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Deadwing12
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 10:57 |
gdub411 wrote:
tuxon wrote:
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true
classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on
his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
rule of tumb. If Tuxon doesn't know it. it can't be popular
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I love Arena...unfortunately I do not think they have the following to berst out into the mainstream conscience....It
would have to be a band that has caught the public eye to some
extent....as well as relatively new(so that rules out Dream Theatre and
Radiohead)...wich means perhaps The Mars Volta....personally I feel
they are too dissonent to really capture the public ear...I still think
the band is yet to come....but very soon...perhaps it will sneak up on
us as did Nirvana when they kicked open the door for Alternative rock
to become mainstream....I think The Mars Volta will crack open the door
a bit, however. |
I don't know why the next band to gain classic status would have to be
so new... After all, in one of the most Recent Rolling Stone magazines,
they named the top 100 Immortals in the music industry, and Radiohead
clocked in at aorund number 65...right behind AC/DC, so Hell...they're
probably already modern classics, though not so much in the prog world.
The term "classic" doesn't necessarily mean quality. It could mean that
a certain band made enough of an impact to be remembered for many years
because they were unique and had a lot of fans, and also set a
benchmark for many following bands. For that reason, both Dream Theater
and (hopefully) the Mars Volta will be the most revered on this list...
Also, Radiohead's already modern classic status in the rock world
doesn't necessairly mean it will make it in the prog world...Led
Zepplin is a Classic band, but not in the realm of prog
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