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valravennz 
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 Posted: April 18 2005 at 22:10 |
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Other: IQ for me.
OK, they are pretty derivitive, and Mars Volta may be the "future," but what I heard did nothing for me (beyond irritate me).... 
Still, I won't write them off yet -- maybe I'll be more receptive to their charms in the future.
 Oh -- Godspeed You Black Emperor really impressed me, and they are quite different, no?
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 From what I have listened to GYBE are really impressive and well... hard to catagorize in many ways. They remind me a little of "Apocalyptica" a string quartet who have done impressions of Metallica and other rock bands. Not quite easy to slot into one particular catagory but I find both a fascinating and challenging listening experience .
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:44 |
Arsillus wrote:
I think Spock's Beard was really close to "next classic prog band." But when Neal Morse left, that thought/hope/idea was over. Now they're just pretty good. |
Exactly my thought.
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tuxon
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:36 |
IQ misses a general appeal I think, like Pendragon and probably Arena, their to much in a niche to really claim the classic status.
After Marillion though, IQ is I think the most succesfull progband arising in the early eighties, and maintaining a reasonable high profile in the past twenty years.
Don't like GYBE, listened to it the other day, downloaded some songs, doubt I will ever buy it, maybe on a real good sale (below €8,00)
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Peter
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:21 |
Other: IQ for me.
OK, they are pretty derivitive, and Mars Volta may be the "future," but what I heard did nothing for me (beyond irritate me)....
Still, I won't write them off yet -- maybe I'll be more receptive to their charms in the future.
Oh -- Godspeed You Black Emperor really impressed me, and they are quite different, no?
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valravennz
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:04 |
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I voted Radiohead because they are regarded in many circles as almost at classic status now. I would like to see The Flower Kings and Porcupine Tree become classic in status. DT and TMV are never going to get there - imo they are simply not good enough to be revered in 50 years time...
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gdub411
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:03 |
tuxon wrote:
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
rule of tumb. If Tuxon doesn't know it. it can't be popular
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I love Arena...unfortunately I do not think they have the following to berst out into the mainstream conscience ....It would have to be a band that has caught the public eye to some extent....as well as relatively new(so that rules out Dream Theatre and Radiohead)...wich means perhaps The Mars Volta....personally I feel they are too dissonent to really capture the public ear...I still think the band is yet to come....but very soon...perhaps it will sneak up on us as did Nirvana when they kicked open the door for Alternative rock to become mainstream....I think The Mars Volta will crack open the door a bit, however.
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threefates
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:00 |
Dream Theater are in no way becoming the next ELP... they don't have a composer!!
Porcupine Tree is great... just not really prog anymore. Their early years were somewhat spacey, but they've most into basic rock these days also.. with a little prog overtones...
The Flower Kings get real poppy at times...
Spocks Beard's last album was better than I thought it was going to be (Never liked them before)
However, I think there are quite a few other bands that could grow into the best prog of this millennium...
You should check out French TV
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 20:13 |
Abbath wrote:
None of these bands come even remotely close to the heights reached in the early-mid 70's.
The band that leads this poll, The Mars Volta, is IMO horrible and not even worth mention.
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Ture, but there's not a single genre of music who had their peak during the 70's that has been re-created (When's the last time your heard a Blues Rock band as good as Zeppelin
You really should try to open your mind a bit more. Yeah, TMV are a hard listen at times, but many of the other artists are making great music as well.
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Abbath
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:55 |
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None of these bands come even remotely close to the heights reached in the early-mid 70's.
The band that leads this poll, The Mars Volta, is IMO horrible and not even worth mention.
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Arsillus
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:54 |
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I think Spock's Beard was really close to "next classic prog band." But when Neal Morse left, that thought/hope/idea was over. Now they're just pretty good.
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tuxon
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:46 |
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
rule of tumb. If Tuxon doesn't know it. it can't be popular
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Arsillus
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:35 |
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I think the Flower Kings will be the next. They have better music in my opinon.
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Wizard/TRueStar
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:15 |
We can only hope Dream Theater are not the next classic prog band.
The Flower Kings or Spock's Beard (I'm the only one who has voted for them) would be better candidates.
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terramystic
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:12 |
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I think TMV (and other bands listed above) are kind of a catalyst for
making strange and complex music popular in mainstream public. The real
classics are more than that. It requires a timeless aesthetic
worthiness to become a classic. There is an album I have high hopes for
becoming a classic of the future - Isildurs Bane - MIND Vol. 1.
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Deadwing12
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 18:42 |
I also agree with Trouserpress in his critique of the Flower Kings.
while obviously a band of immense compositional and techincal skill,
from a musical standpoint, every one of their CDs could have been at
least half in length (especially the double CDs, which could easily
have been one amazing CD instead of two decent ones). Adam and Eve was
a step in the right direction...tight writing and little filler. Now
lets revert back to the more experimental Unfold the Future in scope
and style, combined with the idea that 70 minutes of music is a
sufficient length for an album  ...they
will probably become more revered than they are currently. Just the
amount of material they have written in such a short time is enough for
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Deadwing12
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:20 |
I am loving the attention that The Mars VOlta is receiving here, i
definately agree with all the positive reviews of their first two
albums and sincerely hope they continue to crank out high-coliber
genre-crossing albums. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the next decade
or so, De-Loused and Frances become modern day classics in most
proggers minds
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:19 |
The Mars Volta. They are one of the few groups who make music that can draw form so many sources...I think they also touvched off salsa and latin music in general, genres that, to my ears, have been ignored by many of the Prog bands that we talk about.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:15 |
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The Mars Volta seem to represent the true popular future of prog.
They're inventive, daring and very very new, but still clearly indulge
in a nod or two towards the so-called "classic" groups (just look at
the track lengths on Frances!). As long as they don't indulge in this
silly practice of splitting up after just a couple of albums, we could
see them slowly drawing in thousands of new listeners into the world of
progressive music and on a personal musical level moving from strength
to strength. Or at least I hope that's what happens. De-Loused showed
potential, Frances realised some of it, but they still have many places
they could go to with their music and I can't wait to hear what they
get up to next.
Edit: Oh, and if TFK started being a bit more "Devil's Playground" all
the time and a little less "Love Supreme" then I might take them into
more serious consideration. They really need to curtail some of that
sickly sub-flower-power dross they often end up producing and buckle
down to making the consistently exciting and unusual symphonic album
that they're so so capable of doing.
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con safo
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:12 |
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I voted TMV.. Frances The Mute is truly a classic, and will be rememberd for years to come, like it or not.
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John Gargo
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:11 |
Tony wrote:
The Mars Volta. They are only starting and I believe they will be the ones to reintroduce more complex music to the forefront of the music industry. A bit like what Radiohead did back in 2000 with Kid A, but now it's TMV's turn.
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I agree... FRANCIS THE MUTE is one of the most exciting new releases in years. It's got more originality in one song than most 90s artists have in their entire discography.
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