iPod

Reed Lover wrote: oliverstoned wrote: This is not snobism. Ok, this is not for a road trip. i would take a good old walkman in which i would put a k7 recorded from a vynil on a naka 1000 zxl, for example. Numeric is crap! I it too big? We are all searching for that perfect transparent system Oliver. However the love of music is stronger than the need to fuss about the overall quality of the music format.I used to be like you and it can drive you to distraction.Why dont you write a couple of posts suggesting a budget system and a mid-price system.Aim at first for UK forum members and European ones.Search the internet for prices and give them in £ and €.Explain about cabling,stands and positioning.And stop belittling other formats,just accept that people can tolerate them better than you.

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I just want people to realize how horrible it is that we are "numerized" and how bad it is, for image (video), and even worst, for sound.
I have already presented several times the smallest budget musical system (100% english btw) made of Nad Cd player and integrated amp with Mission loudspeakers and QED cables.

And you have not to search for the perfect musical system. (you said "transparent")

It already exists:

And this is not with a crappy numeric source, even SACD
(its even worst!)

This is not snobism.

Ok, this is not for a road trip.

i would take a good old walkman in which i would put a k7 recorded from a vynil on a naka 1000 zxl, for example.

Numeric is crap!

I it too big?

All these crappy numeric formats are rotten!

Forget this crappy numeric and run to buy as much as (good)vynils as you can.
It's the only thing to do!

goose wrote: Fitzcarraldo wrote: It's pointless slamming MP3/WMA/OGG until someone can come up with something better for use on the move (aeroplane, boat, train, etc.). I'll slam anything I want now I know they make lossless players .

My Creative jukebox plays .wav files-that's lossless isnt it?

Reed Lover wrote: oliverstoned wrote: I don't want to be violent, dear Reed. But this is crap. Mp3 and others compressed digital formats are the worst thing ever. But if you're happy like that, great! You save a lot of money. Everything is not expensive in HIFI. I can advice you an english budget but musical system made of Nad electronics, Mission Loudspeakers and Qed cables. 400 £ for the whole system We've already discussed this Oliver!!! I like music "on the move" so I have an MP3 player!How else do you do this??????????? My set up for "proper listening" is budget but very good: Arcam CD72T CD PlayerNad C350 AmpBi-Wired B&W 602 S2 speakers on Atacama stands.Ecosse interconnects/Chord Speaker cable.

Yes, your system is not bad, reed.

I'm fighting against mp3 cause this is very sad that
we are in a more and more numeric world.
Cd, and even worst mp3 is a very bad way to reproduce music.
So, i consider myself a resistant

goose,

So you've bought a FLAC player? Which model did you buy? The iAudio that I told you about a while back?

What does it sound like? Can you tell the difference between MP3/OGG/WMA tracks at e.g. 192kbps and the same track recorded using FLAC or WAV?

 

It's horses for courses, isn't it? iPod/iRiver/Creative when on the move (aeroplane, train, waiting room etc.) and decent HIFI at home. It's pointless slamming MP3/WMA/OGG until someone can come up with something better for use on the move (aeroplane, boat, train, etc.).

Until someone can come up with a player the size of a cigarette box that can play lossless 24-bit audio on 6 channels at 192 kHz, I'll have to be content with my OGG/MP3/WMA iRiver when I'm on the move.

By the way, has anyone here tried active noise suppression/cancellation headphones/earphones (Sennheiser HDC451, Sony MDR-NC11, JVC HA-NC100, Panasonic RPHC100, etc.) on an aeroplane? I don't want to fork out between GBP 30 to 90 for a pair of noise suppression/cancellation headphones or earphones without knowing how good they are first. Do they work well on an aeroplane?

It's only when you try to use your MP3 player on an aeroplane that you realise how damn noisy is the cabin of a civil airliner. I have to really crank up the volume of my iRiver H140 in order to be able to listen to it in an aeroplane, even using in-ear earphones. This cannot be doing my eardrums any good.

Can anyone recommend a specific make/model of active noise reduction headphones or earphones for an MP3 player? (I'm not talking about in-ear earphones - I've got an expensive pair of Sony Fontopia earphones already and the aircraft cabin is still too noisy - but about active noise suppression/cancellation technology.) Anyone use one of these active noise suppression/cancellation things?

 

oliverstoned wrote: I don't want to be violent, dear Reed. But this is crap. Mp3 and others compressed digital formats are the worst thing ever. But if you're happy like that, great! You save a lot of money. Everything is not expensive in HIFI. I can advice you an english budget but musical system made of Nad electronics, Mission Loudspeakers and Qed cables. 400 £ for the whole system

We've already discussed this Oliver!!!

I like music "on the move" so I have an MP3 player!How else do you do this???????????

My set up for "proper listening" is budget but very good:

Arcam CD72T CD Player
Nad C350 Amp
Bi-Wired B&W 602 S2 speakers on Atacama stands.
Ecosse interconnects/Chord Speaker cable.

oliverstoned wrote: I don't want to be violent, dear Reed. Mp3 and others compressed digital formats are the worst thing ever.

True, but I don't think a portable record player's really an option .

Budget analog sources: