iPod

goose wrote: I think every other audio player beginning with "i" is better than the iPod. Particularly the iAudio, if only because it plays flac.

Maybe IRiver?

I've got a Creative Nomad 20GB Jukebox.Apparently slightly heavier than an IPOD it was considerably cheaper (I paid £160).I have listened to an IPOD and can discern no real difference.I have 18 GB of Prog on mine () and I love it.Dont listen to that misery Oliver() MP3 is great for music on the move and as such the sound quality is GOOD!
Of course its not audiophile but if you spent £100,000 on an HIFI Oliver would tell you you should have spent £200,000!!!

Hey Oliver

oliverstoned wrote: I don't want to be violent, dear Reed. Mp3 and others compressed digital formats are the worst thing ever.

True, but I don't think a portable record player's really an option .

oliverstoned wrote: I don't want to be violent, dear Reed. But this is crap. Mp3 and others compressed digital formats are the worst thing ever. But if you're happy like that, great! You save a lot of money. Everything is not expensive in HIFI. I can advice you an english budget but musical system made of Nad electronics, Mission Loudspeakers and Qed cables. 400 £ for the whole system

We've already discussed this Oliver!!!

I like music "on the move" so I have an MP3 player!How else do you do this???????????

My set up for "proper listening" is budget but very good:

Arcam CD72T CD Player
Nad C350 Amp
Bi-Wired B&W 602 S2 speakers on Atacama stands.
Ecosse interconnects/Chord Speaker cable.

It's horses for courses, isn't it? iPod/iRiver/Creative when on the move (aeroplane, train, waiting room etc.) and decent HIFI at home. It's pointless slamming MP3/WMA/OGG until someone can come up with something better for use on the move (aeroplane, boat, train, etc.).

Until someone can come up with a player the size of a cigarette box that can play lossless 24-bit audio on 6 channels at 192 kHz, I'll have to be content with my OGG/MP3/WMA iRiver when I'm on the move.

By the way, has anyone here tried active noise suppression/cancellation headphones/earphones (Sennheiser HDC451, Sony MDR-NC11, JVC HA-NC100, Panasonic RPHC100, etc.) on an aeroplane? I don't want to fork out between GBP 30 to 90 for a pair of noise suppression/cancellation headphones or earphones without knowing how good they are first. Do they work well on an aeroplane?

It's only when you try to use your MP3 player on an aeroplane that you realise how damn noisy is the cabin of a civil airliner. I have to really crank up the volume of my iRiver H140 in order to be able to listen to it in an aeroplane, even using in-ear earphones. This cannot be doing my eardrums any good.

Can anyone recommend a specific make/model of active noise reduction headphones or earphones for an MP3 player? (I'm not talking about in-ear earphones - I've got an expensive pair of Sony Fontopia earphones already and the aircraft cabin is still too noisy - but about active noise suppression/cancellation technology.) Anyone use one of these active noise suppression/cancellation things?

goose,

So you've bought a FLAC player? Which model did you buy? The iAudio that I told you about a while back?

What does it sound like? Can you tell the difference between MP3/OGG/WMA tracks at e.g. 192kbps and the same track recorded using FLAC or WAV?