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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: April 16 2005 at 10:32 |
Oh well, that doesn't bother me the least. All of those bands are way better than pink floyd anyway.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: April 16 2005 at 10:35 |
David who ??????????
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gdub411
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Posted: April 16 2005 at 10:44 |
Velvetclown wrote:
David who ?????????? |
David Carradine...grasshopper!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: April 16 2005 at 10:45 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 06:58 |
Fantômas wrote:
David Gilmour should try to be more like Fripp... The world would be a better place... |
But Robert Fripp is literally on record (or CD) stating he doesn't like prog!!!!!!!
I would suggest Gilmour and Fripp don't like being tarred with the term 'progressive rock', because of 30 years of negative press.
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philippe
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 07:09 |
DallasBryan wrote:
Pink Floyd could be considered the godfathers of cosmic/space/psychedelic music with the release of Dark Side of the Moon creating the european cosmic progressive scene.
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wrong! bands as Ash ra tempel , Popol Vuh and Tangerine Dream have released their first albums before the release of dark side of the moon.... but you are not enterily wrong, this album developed a passion to space rock for a whole generation!!
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 08:38 |
I'm sure most rock musicians are completely up their own arses and believe they are something they are not.
Gilmour probably hated other prog bands because they all had better drummers and keyboard players than floyd, and were therefore able to make more interesting music. The fact that he sold more records than any other prog band says more about the lack of imagination on the listerners part, rather than any defficiency on the part of his contemporaries.
And I am a Pink Floyd fan!! It annoys me when people like him say things like that..He's only a f***ing rock star FFS!!
'We're just musicians. Its not that noble a pursuit' Geddy Lee
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 08:50 |
Nobody believes thay are prog! Most musicians dont like to be pigeonholed, thats why they are a bit bemused of being accused of "selling out". Its us lot and the music press that make these definitions. Id better say IMO
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 08:51 |
And why should Gilmour like those bands anyway.......they have nothing in common
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 09:25 |
You're right in that people dont regard them as prog rock.
Most people I know like selected Floyd tracks or albums, but would laugh their arses off at Genesis, Yes or ELP. They would certainly not asscociate PF with them. I would of course, politiely disagree with them.
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 09:30 |
david gilmour is a conceited condescending hypocrite. since wish you were here he has managed to bleed dry the integrity of one of the greatest BAND'S( no david it is NOT the david gilmour band) in rock history. to the point that he forced the band name onto inferior product(momentary lapse, division bell)even though its main creative force and cornerstone (roger waters) had long since left . all this to pad the overstuffed pockets of an overrated guitarist who indulges himself and his fantasies as being one of the greatest ever far too much, taking himself and his music ( good as it may be) far too seriously.
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Abbath
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:58 |
Who cares what Gilmour thinks... Pink Floys is an abomination.
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Rob The Good
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 00:51 |
Robert Fripp likes Tool! Of course he dislikes prog!
You can certainly get Proggier than PF....
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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threefates
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:01 |
Radioactive Toy wrote:
threefates wrote:
ELP had 6 masterpieces... and a couple of other closebys....
Altho I love Floyd.. and I think they've got atleast 5 masterpieces of their own. I think David was most likely just tired of being asked that question.
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It isn't quantity.. it's quality
Ah well you'll have your elp share.. I really tried.. I failed.. Is it something with elp - elp that is bad and I should try another album? or..
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Yeh, you probably just need to grow up first... then you can start to appreciate real music...
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threefates
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:10 |
hopelevre wrote:
david gilmour is a conceited condescending hypocrite. since wish you were here he has managed to bleed dry the integrity of one of the greatest BAND'S( no david it is NOT the david gilmour band) in rock history. to the point that he forced the band name onto inferior product(momentary lapse, division bell)even though its main creative force and cornerstone (roger waters) had long since left . all this to pad the overstuffed pockets of an overrated guitarist who indulges himself and his fantasies as being one of the greatest ever far too much, taking himself and his music ( good as it may be) far too seriously. |
David Gilmour is none of those things. And unless you've met him and had a conversation with him, you're just basing your assumption of an editor's idea of what David Gilmour should sound like. I've met David quite a few times, and he's always been gracious and kind. But after 35 years of answering the same useless questions, I'm sure he probably just starts to make things up for a little variety. I've read several interviews where he answers the same question in quite a few different ways with no relation. I'm sure he's just trying to keep himself amused thru it all.
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:29 |
I don't think David hates prog, even if he had said so, which I also don't believe:) Anyway, Mr.Gilmour is not a human being, he's a good sent from Valhalla, Cheers:)
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:43 |
my post ahd nothign to do with the question asked of mr. gilmour and everything to do with his general attitudes not one in a specific instance. he is corrupted by self love and commercial greed.
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:16 |
Dick Heath wrote:
I would suggest Gilmour and Fripp don't like being tarred
with the term 'progressive rock', because of 30 years of
negative press. |
I've always presumed that musicians view their music rather
differently from how their audience do (rightly or wrongly). It's
like Phil Collins' protestations that he couldn't understand why
Genesis were pillored alongside Yes, ELP when punk came
along.
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:23 |
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David Gilmour is none of those things. And unless you've
met him and had a conversation with him, you're just basing
your assumption of an editor's idea of what David Gilmour
should sound like. I've met David quite a few times, and he's
always been gracious and kind. But after 35 years of
answering the same useless questions, I'm sure he probably
just starts to make things up for a little variety. I've read several
interviews where he answers the same question in quite a few
different ways with no relation. I'm sure he's just trying to keep
himself amused thru it all.
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I'm sure he has does make things up to amuse himself, yes. I
have interviewed David twice, though, and have to say he was
a disagreeable old cove on both occasions! :-) It really didn't
matter what the topic or question was, he clearly had no interest
in being there. One of these interviews was to plug his last solo
album, and I do recall thinking that if he couldn't be bothered to
push even this, why was he bothering at all. If I was a
millionaire rock star I wouldn't bother either, but then I wouldn't
bother to agree to press in the first place. Nevertheless, I'm sure
that with a glass of fine chablis in one hand and a nose full of
the other, David (never Dave!) would be a witty and charming
dinner party conversationalist.
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empty-spaces
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:29 |
david gilmour is an absolurte genius and a legend, he can say what he wants about any music he wants because Pink Floyd are quite simply the best band the world has ever seen.
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