Opeth

John Gargo wrote: Jim Garten wrote: I suspect Phillipe is deliberately playing Devil's advocate, here. And how does one play Devil's advocate without any reasoning to back up a statement.  The only claim he has to Opeth discrediting the site is that he doesn't like death metal... in fact, I doubt he's ever even listened to a full album.  If he had, he would notice that the band has dominant progressive tendencies.  If he wants to make a claim that the band will discredit the site, he needs to back it up, which he hasn't done at all.

You don't know what  you are talking about little headbanger...I'm sure that you never heard progressive music to tell such absurdities!!

philippe wrote: OK, YOU ARE HOPELESS!!!, let's put stuffs as IMMORTAL, MARDUK to satisfy your appetite of prog music...they also play long epic pieces I really tend to disapprove with the way things are turning about progressive music...the term really means nothing today!!

I'm not bothered one way or the other about Opeth. I like them, but I wouldn't say they were anything like as progressive as they could be. Original, yes (discounting Edge of Sanity and Tiamat, of course!), but only a bit progressive. But they're not even comparable to Immortal or Marduk; certainly they haven't been even vaguely black metal for years. They do tend towards death metal considerably more but even that's a fairly tenuous link.

Opeth's lamentations DVD has been added to the archives. I sooo want to get it. If anyone has seen it then get reviewing cos it has no ratings so far..

philippe wrote: John Gargo wrote: Jim Garten wrote: I suspect Phillipe is deliberately playing Devil's advocate, here. And how does one play Devil's advocate without any reasoning to back up a statement. The only claim he has to Opeth discrediting the site is that he doesn't like death metal... in fact, I doubt he's ever even listened to a full album. If he had, he would notice that the band has dominant progressive tendencies. If he wants to make a claim that the band will discredit the site, he needs to back it up, which he hasn't done at all. You don't know what you are talking about little headbanger...I'm sure that you never heard progressive music to tell such absurdities!!

I'm afraid Philippe is right!

I didn't know this forum was full of so many assholes...  who would have thought that so many people who listen to prog are so closeminded. 

oliverstoned wrote: so you're not close minded cause you don't listen to prog!

Hi I just joined this forum and was glad to see a thread about Opeth. They have got to be one of the best bands around today. I have seen them twice and they are amazing. Lamentations is a good DVD and well worth the small price they are asking for it ! If you like Opeth try Katatonia. I have been deep into symphonic/prog/black metal lately and they are really good and doomy somewhat like Opeth.

Debra

There is a grand misunderstandning about the band. Too many people hark on the fact that they balance heavy and soft, which is real nice if its done really well.

I love Opeth's good years (Orchid-Still Life), which is funny because that's when they used the balance to their advantage, when it fit (relatively) well into their songs. Later on, they got sloppy and misused mellow parts and found themselves meandering far too much. They almost became a parody of themselves.

It's really all in the melodies and the layering. They are great at overlapping sounds that probably shouldn't be together considering all conventional music theory (very unfocused and disjointed sound) but can put it together by always sort of being off-kilter (it's like they're off by a bit, but they aren't....I'm sure this make no sense to anyone but me).

They alos aren't death metal, they're way more doom and prog metal than anything. The growling vocals (which are great) don't make them death metal.

Aside from that, I'm done my metal elitist griping. Good band with one SPECTACULAR album (Still Life)

Taken from OPETH official website!!

 

First bought record: Iron Maiden ­ Number of the beast
Best ever song: A day in the life ­ The Beatles
Best ever album: Sabbath bloody Sabbath ­ Black Sabbath, Porcupine tree - Stupid dream/In absentia, The beatles - White album, Led Zeppelin - IV etc, etc
Favourite songwriter: The Beatles (living & dead), Ritchie Blackmore, Steven Wilson, Stefan Dimle/Reine Fiske, Jimmy Page
Favourite musician: The above + Andy Latimer, Jerry Donahue, Trey Azagthoth, David Vincent, David Coverdale, Ronnie Dio, Rob Halford, Jörn Lande, Yngwie Malmsteen, Ann & Nancy Wilson.

  

First bought record: Iron Maiden “Iron Maiden”
Best ever song: That’s impossible to say!
Best ever album: It could be Porcupine Tree “In absentia”!!
Favourite songwriter: Lennon/McCartney or Steven Wilson
Favourite singer: Jeff Buckley
Favourite guitarist: Edward Van Halen
Other favourite musician: Stevie Wonder

 

 

 

Look at this, what a big shame!!!! Where are the roots in progressive music??????

 

Eemu Ranta wrote: Opeth's strength has always been the contrast between brutality and mellowness, and its absence makes me rate Damnation a bit lower than their best albums 'Morningrise', 'Still Life' and 'MAYH', although it's still a very good release.

My thoughts exactly. Though I probably would have taken three wordy paragraphs to say the same thing.