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Topic: Help needed (please) Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:48 |
I have an old Bang & Olufsen tuner/amplifier, my question is about correct loudspeaker connection.
As you can see in the picture (sorry abou the quality, took it with my cellphone) there are some oldfashioned output terminals (if that is what they are called), and as you can see there are two "holes" in both the output terminal for the right channel, and the left channel there is a big one and a small one, and I wonder which of the "holes" is the positive one (usually on newer amps the red one) and which is the negative one (usually black on newer amps)
I hope I made myself clear, and that there is someone out there with this specific kind of information.
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:59 |
Our sound guru, mr Oliverstoned, may have the answer...
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 08:23 |
My own poor opinion is get a new amplifier and speakers to match that one. B & O is way over-rated, but you should have no problems fiding a sucker to buy this stuff. Put an add in a special HI-FI mag, there are always people that do collection of those old amps.
With the money from the sale you should have enough to buy a real amp (not something that looks like a piece of art) .
Just an opinion, though.
BTW, I cannot see your picture.
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 08:26 |
ummagumma08 wrote:
I have an old Bang & Olufsen tuner/amplifier, my question is about correct loudspeaker connection.
As you can see in the picture (sorry abou the quality, took it with my cellphone) there are some oldfashioned output terminals (if that is what they are called), and as you can see there are two "holes" in both the output terminal for the right channel, and the left channel there is a big one and a small one, and I wonder which of the "holes" is the positive one (usually on newer amps the red one) and which is the negative one (usually black on newer amps)
I hope I made myself clear, and that there is someone out there with this specific kind of information.
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Howdi
They are old din speaker outlets,you can get them still but your looking at cheap sh*t plastic ones.
There is a company in the UK who supply metal ones .I'll PM you the details
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ummagumma08
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 08:33 |
Sean Trane wrote:
My own poor opnion is get a new amplifier and speakers to match . B & O is way over-rated, but you should have no problems fiding a sucker to buy this stuff. Put an add in a special HI-FI mag, there are always people that do collection of those old ampps. With the money from the sale you should have enough to buy a real amp (not something that looks like a piece of art) .
Just an opnion, though.
BTW, I cannot see your picture.
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It's not the amplifier I use... (you are right B&O are very overrated, you buy with you eyes not your ears, I used one similar (beomaster 3000) in the past a bit bigger, but didn't sound very great) This one I got from someone who wanted to get rid of it, and i've just suceeded in selling it (not for very much though) and I am confused about the speaker connection, i just want to give the buyer the correct instruction.
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 08:40 |
ummagumma08 wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
My own poor opnion is get a new amplifier and speakers to match . B & O is way over-rated, but you should have no problems fiding a sucker to buy this stuff. Put an add in a special HI-FI mag, there are always people that do collection of those old ampps. With the money from the sale you should have enough to buy a real amp (not something that looks like a piece of art) .
Just an opnion, though.
BTW, I cannot see your picture.
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It's not the amplifier I use... (you are right B&O are very overrated, you buy with you eyes not your ears, I used one similar (beomaster 3000) in the past a bit bigger, but didn't sound very great) This one I got from someone who wanted to get rid of it, and i've just suceeded in selling it (not for very much though) and I am confused about the speaker connection, i just want to give the buyer the correct instruction.
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As your in Denmark try out an amplifier company called Densen...Real gear.
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 08:40 |
karnevil9 wrote:
Howdi
They are old din speaker outlets,you can get them still but your looking at cheap sh*t plastic ones.
There is a company in the UK who supply metal ones .I'll PM you the details
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I don't want to invest any money I have the jacks needed for the outlets, im just confused about the +/- thing.
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 08:57 |
ummagumma08 wrote:
karnevil9 wrote:
Howdi
They are old din speaker outlets,you can get them still but your looking at cheap sh*t plastic ones.
There is a company in the UK who supply metal ones .I'll PM you the details
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I don't want to invest any money I have the jacks needed for the outlets, im just confused about the +/- thing.
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Loudspeaker (2-pin):
Round Pin - Positive (Positive + usually donated by a red sleeve on your cable) Flat Pin - Negative (Neg - usually donated by a Blk sleeve on your cable)
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:07 |
thanks...
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Posted: April 08 2005 at 13:04 |
Sean Trane wrote:
My own poor opnion is get a new amplifier and speakers to match . B & O is way over-rated, but you should have no problems fiding a sucker to buy this stuff. Put an add in a special HI-FI mag, there are always people that do collection of those old ampps. With the money from the sale you should have enough to buy a real amp (not something that looks like a piece of art) .
Just an opnion, though.
BTW, I cannot see your picture. |
I agree.
Sell it and buy the real thing!
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Posted: April 09 2005 at 19:18 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
My own poor opnion is get a new amplifier and speakers to match . B & O is way over-rated, but you should have no problems fiding a sucker to buy this stuff. Put an add in a special HI-FI mag, there are always people that do collection of those old ampps. With the money from the sale you should have enough to buy a real amp (not something that looks like a piece of art) .
Just an opnion, though.
BTW, I cannot see your picture.
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I agree. Sell it and buy the real thing! |
Yeh don't buy what Oliver wished he'd got.lol
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Posted: April 10 2005 at 01:30 |
I think amps like Jolida or Conrad jonhson are the real thing, compare to the poor device you construct in your garage...
Joker!
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 20:36 |
oliverstoned wrote:
I think amps like Jolida or Conrad jonhson are the real thing, compare to the poor device you construct in your garage... Joker! |
i DON'T CONSTRUCT ANYTHING IN MY GUARAGE PRAT..
That Rega was a pic i pasted off the WEB PRAT.
Keep dreaming about the Conrad gear PRAT.
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 02:27 |
Conrad Jonhson is not good for you?
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 03:04 |
Here's my amp:
I wish you to have something as good!
then, you'll know what real sound is!
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 03:25 |
Salut Olivier,
Actually , although amps like yours are the best kind, those bulbs have relatively short life span (on average two years) before deteriorating. Not only are those bulbs expensive to replace but good quality replacement are scarce. Most audiophiles do not consider those China-made bulbs any good . You might have to look to military equipment or Russian-made bulbs but furnishing channels are to me complicated. So I gave up on that idea of ever owning such an amp.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 04:24 |
Hi sean,
This is russian tubes!
No pb wuth lifetime, really this is a legend:
I have it from 2 years now, and listen it an average of 4 hours a day!! and loud!!!
There's not the smallest sound deterioration, but when it will happen (loss of accurancy in the highs), i will replace the power tubes (the four big ones on the pic)and voilà! it's like new!and you're quiet for several years of musical heaven!
They cost only 30€ per tube, so 120 € each 3/4 years of intensive use.
This amp is real great, it's quite as good as Conrad Jonhson, but 2 or 3 times less expensive!
Moreover, i will replace the connectic by WBT topline connects, and it's gonna be better!
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 04:30 |
Hey sean trane!
i'm zero the hero too!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 05:49 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Hey sean trane! i'm zero the hero too! |
Salut mec,
Tu boumes bien?
T'es de où en France?
Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong: il est bientot midi
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 06:22 |
Je suis un pot head pixie de région parisienne
I AM
YOU ARE
WE ARE
CRAZY
Sais tu qu'un nouveau live de gong de 75 sort à la fin du mois avec des morceaux de You, shamal et Fish rising (evec la particiapation de Steve Hillage)?
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