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video vertigo
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Topic: Genesis v. Marillion Posted: July 25 2005 at 22:37 |
This is Genesis starting when Marillion started, who apparently sounded a lot like Genesis in their early days. Genesis was no longer what they once were. So Genesis at "Duke" and the beginning of Marillion.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: July 25 2005 at 22:49 |
I'll take the genuine thing, even if it is popped up a bit, over Marillion any day.
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 01:44 |
Genesis
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 01:47 |
Genesis. For what they did in the '70's and early eighties.
Marillion is good too, but compared to Genesis it's Second League to me. Still, I admire their progressive attitude since Brave.
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tuxon
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 02:12 |
Marillion any day.
Foxtrot vs Script For a Jester's tear, really no contest, script wins Trespass vs Fugazi, again no contest, fugazi wins Selling England vs Misplaced, ehrm, tough contest, Selling England wins Nursery Cryme vs Brave, tough again, but Brave wins The Lamb vs Clutching, really no contest, the lamb bows down at the feet of Clutching at straws
Everything from Genesis after the Lamb is really no match for our winner.
marillion owns Genesis.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 05:25 |
LATE Genesis only??
Then Marillion gets my vote, no question. I think Duke was an excellent album by Genesis, but it was the only 'excellent' album they produced in the 80's IMO. Marillion produced two excellent albums (Script & Fugazi) and few 'very good' ones (Misplaced C, & CAS)
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richeym
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 07:38 |
i prefer marillion, but the very best early genesis songs crush even the best Marillion songs.
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The Miracle
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 23:25 |
I'll have to go with marillion after duke is just the time when genesis became crap But during Gabriel era they owned any band except yes IMO
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kirklott
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 20:04 |
This poll can't be serious. We're talking about the master vs. the apprentice.
It's true the master was eventually lured to the dark side, but so was the apprentice.
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 20:08 |
Marillion. Late Genesis, you know, blows a lot of arse.
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kirklott
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 20:13 |
King of Loss wrote:
Marillion. Late Genesis, you know, blows a lot of arse. |
Yeah, but Hogarth blows bovine appendage, so Marillion sux harder.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 28 2005 at 04:04 |
Oh, okay, LATE Genesis vs. Marillion. Sorry, I should the intro to the threads better before I start replying. I'm extremely irritating these days.
Except for the magnificent Three Sides Live Album my answer would be: Marillion. They beat Genesis after 1983. But I listen to both, even later Genesis, which has it's moments from time to time.
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Valarius
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Posted: July 28 2005 at 04:34 |
Marillion.
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soy10ley2002
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 11:40 |
1983: Script For a Jester's Tear vs 1980: Duke - Duke wins
1983: Script For a Jester's Tear vs 1981: ABACAB - ABACAB wins
1983: Script For A Jester's Tear vs 1983: Genesis - SFAJT wins
1984: Fugazi vs 1983: Genesis - Fugazi wins
1984: Real to Reel vs 1982: Three Sides Live - TSL wins
1985: Misplaced Childhood vs 1983: Genesis - Misplaced Childhood wins by a mile
1985: Misplaced Childhood vs 1986: Invisible Touch - MC wins
1987: Clutching At Straws vs 1986: Invisible Touch - CAS wins
1988: The Thieving Magpie vs 1982: Three Sides Live - TSL wins
1989: Season's End vs 1987: Invisible Touch - IT wins
1991: Holidays In Eden vs 1987: Invisible Touch - IT wins
1991: Holidays In Eden vs 1991: We Can't Dance - HIE wins
1988: The Thieving Magpie vs 1992: The Way We Walk: The Shorts - TTM wins
1988: The Thieving Magpie vs 1993: The Way We Walk: The Longs - TTM wins
1994: Brave vs 1992: We Can't Dance - Brave wins
1995: Afraid of Sunlight vs 1992: We Can't Dance - AOS wins
1996: Made Again vs 1992/93: The Way We Walk: The Shorts/Longs - TWWW wins
1997: This Strange Engine vs 1997: Calling All Stations - CAS wins
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soy10ley2002
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 11:45 |
Addendum: If we're going to go off the author's topic and include any Genesis from 1972- & nbsp; 1977,then it's Genesis easily.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 14:44 |
Marillion by a mile. Only Duke and ATTWT were reasonable late Genesis albums (3 stars each), whereas Marillion scored several 4-5 star albums.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 21:13 |
heres how I rate the albums (that I have):
Marillion:
- 3 - Script for a Jester's Tear
- 2 - Misplaced Childhood
- 2 - Fugazi
Genesis
- 3 - And Then There Were Three...
- 4 - Duke
- 2.5 - Abacab
- 4 - Three Sides Live
- 2 - Genesis
- 3 - Invisible Touch
- 3 - We Can't Dance
- 1 - The Way We Walk 1
- 4 - The Way We Walk 2
- 2 - Calling All Stations
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 21:49 |
In my opinion , only "Invisible touch" and "Genesis" are worse then the BEST Marillion-album which, IMO, is "Script...". Genesis is Genesis, so I voted Genesis
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 15:43 |
Genesis is clearly the victor for me
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 11:55 |
I'm not a fan of either band, but I voted Genesis because they are the original - without them there wouldn't have been any Marillion. Obviously, Marillion's early output is vastly superior to anything Genesis did from the early '80s onwards, but one cannot forget the difference between the master and the apprentice, as Kirklott wonderfully put it.
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