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    Posted: July 24 2005 at 16:22

 I really think that Pat Metheny is better guitarrist than Steve Howe....

are you agree or disagree??*

 

 

(*) not for fans , only for real listeners..
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 16:53

I agree that you think that Pat Metheny is a better guitarist than Steve Howe.

Why Howe though? Who else do you think he's better than?
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 16:54
Yep. Very different genre though. Odd post, this...
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Points: 623 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 16:57
Originally posted by walrus walrus wrote:

 I really think that Pat Metheny is better guitarrist than Steve Howe....

are you agree or disagree??*

(*) not for fans , only for real listeners..

No chance. New age noodler (Matheny) vs. timeless, world-class, genre-defying artiste par excellence (Howe)
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Points: 4888 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 17:13

 

Metheny, a new age noodler? Right, I get it, you're referring to his "Zero Tolerance for Silence" album, aren't you?
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 17:17
I think that a lot of guitarists are "better than Howe", if you compare the complexity of the music that they played. But how do we know if Howe couldn't have played that stuff if he had wanted to? I think he's a good guitarist ... and the question "is X better than Y" can only be answered individually anyway.
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Points: 225 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 17:34
At the risk of throwing this thread off-topic, I love Methany's American Garage album, and any prog fans who love jazzy bands like Hatfield and the North and traditional fusion should seek this album out.
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Originally posted by beterdedthnred4 beterdedthnred4 wrote:

At the risk of throwing this thread off-topic,


Oh pish! It's a silly thread anyway!

Originally posted by beterdedthnred4 beterdedthnred4 wrote:

Hatfield and the North


Phil Miller - one HELL of a guitarist!


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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by beterdedthnred4 beterdedthnred4 wrote:

At the risk of throwing this thread off-topic,


Oh pish! It's a silly thread anyway!

Originally posted by beterdedthnred4 beterdedthnred4 wrote:

Hatfield and the North


Phil Miller - one HELL of a guitarist!


yea the canterbury musicians never get their due appreciation
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Points: 16451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 19:28

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Points: 1125 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 19:32

This tiresome comparison no one is better than howe.
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 19:35

I'm sorry I thought this was a thread about Jimmy Page

I'll leave now
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Points: 16451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 19:38
Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

This tiresome comparison no one is better than howe.

Another Yes Fanboy ???

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Points: 623 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 19:43
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

This tiresome comparison no one is better than howe.

Another Yes Fanboy ???

Measured by sheer diversity and eclecticism, nobody holds a candle to Howe. Please name names, if you think otherwise.
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Points: 623 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 19:45
Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

Metheny, a new age noodler? Right, I get it, you're referring to his "Zero Tolerance for Silence" album, aren't you?

Actually I was thinking of Wichita Falls, which didn't really inspire me to explore his work further.

As for Howe, I will admit much of his solo work leaves much to be desired. But in a group environment, he's unbeatable. Heck he even managed to sneak some highly creative riffs into that corporate monstrosity known as Asia.
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Points: 16451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 19:48
Originally posted by kirklott kirklott wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

This tiresome comparison no one is better than howe.

Another Yes Fanboy ???

Measured by sheer diversity and eclecticism, nobody holds a candle to Howe. Please name names, if you think otherwise.

Hah, I was jus' kiddin'. I'm a Yes fanboy myself

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Points: 290 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 21:27
Lets take a look at this seriously 

EVen though I still enjoy reading other people's comments on this message board and sometimes putting my own opinion now and then. I'm always a little repulsed by these threads where people try compare a band to another band. We can try to compare bands in terms of technical genius or creative genius or sheer innovativeness, but seriously what is the point?

Take for instance, this thread. This is probably the most simplest way to show how stupid we can be trying to prove something; whether it be that our musical taste is better than the next man, or trying to be some sort of music listening saviour to other avid music lovers.

Pat Metheny is better than Howe ...pff who cares?

Trust me I value yours and my opinion quite equally, but what is the point of this bandering over which is better? If anything we should just be enjoying the music that we love and let other people enjoy the music they love. It's great that you voice your opinion from time to time, but it's not like you're going to change the world to your tastes as well. How bland would a world be if everyone had the same tastes?

I say again, there's no point to this thread. I'd like it to be deleted.
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Points: 162 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 21:33
Well, the thing is Steve Howe is a classical guitarist. He also plays alot of really hard things to play in the backround when the keyboards are louder than him.
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Points: 934 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2005 at 21:40
This is like comparing apples to oranges.  Howe and Metheny are from two different worlds.  How can you say one is better than the other.  They are both technically proficient.  It comes down to taste.  Who's style do you like better.
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Points: 2121 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2005 at 02:33

Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

This is like comparing apples to oranges.  Howe and Metheny are from two different worlds.  How can you say one is better than the other.  They are both technically proficient.  It comes down to taste.  Who's style do you like better.

Exactly so. BTW I think Pat Metheny's output is FAR BETTER than Howe's (though also it contains some irritating things) but they are really too different genres to be compared.
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