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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 10 2004 at 09:55 |
Joren wrote:
Thanks, both of you! I'll try to find a copy of those movies. And mr. Dynamic Stormcrow, who directed 12 monkeys? Because I can only find a movie with that title with the actors Brad Pitt and Bruce Willis... is that it? |
Yes, "12 Monkeys" was directed by Terry Gilliam.
I know that at first glance the cast involved would give you the impression that the movie was more mainstream Hollywood, but don't let that fool you.
Brad Pitt gives one of the funniest, most manic portrayals of a man gone mad that you will ever see on the screen.
Willis is perfect in the lead role of a man of action who has been beaten down by the system and is questioning his own sanity.
Madeleine Stowe is positively luminous playing as a professional woman seeing the meaning of reality crumble around her.
Christopher Plummer is obviously having a great time playing against type as an oily, manipulative, millionaire genetic scientist.
David Morse is perfect in a small but very important role that I can't tell you about without ruining the movie.
The movie works on so many levels. It's a great time travel story. It's a profound question on the nature of what we perceive as reality. It's a tense action - chase movie. It has a very interesting sub-plot on Stockholm syndrome becoming romantic love. It's laugh-out-loud funny.
If you enjoy Gilliam's story telling at all (obviously not everyone does), it's must-see cinema.
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richardh
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Posted: May 10 2004 at 18:37 |
I like Terry Gilliam.All his films are worth a look and are never remotely boring.Just a shame that he's about as 'prolific' as Stanley Kubrick when it comes to number of films made.
Have you seen the documentary about his failed attempt to bring Don Quixote to the big screen 'Lost In La Mancha' ? I would highly recommend this if you havn't seen it.Gilliam is so much like Quixote, always tilting at windmills! Also worth watching is 'The Hamster Factor', a documentary about the making of 'Twelve Monkeys'.It's an absolutely fascinating insight into Gilliam and the machinations of Hollywood.You can find this as a bonus feature on the DVD.
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Joren
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Posted: May 11 2004 at 14:00 |
I also like Gilliam! And I thought Willis was OK in Pulp Fiction... but Brad Pitt...
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 01:13 |
Joren wrote:
I also like Gilliam! And I thought Willis was OK in Pulp Fiction... but Brad Pitt...  |
Just see "12 Monkeys", "Cool World" and "Fight Club" before you judge Pitt too harshly.
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 03:13 |
Stormcrow wrote:
Joren wrote:
I also like Gilliam! And I thought Willis was OK in Pulp Fiction... but Brad Pitt...  |
Just see "12 Monkeys", "Cool World" and "Fight Club" before you judge Pitt too harshly. |
Not to mention 'snatch' - his depiction of an Irish gypsy boxer is superb (but does my wife have to drool every time he removes his shirt?
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Joren
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 08:24 |
ok, ok
I just think his face is a bit too... scary! 
Mr. handsome.. 
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 10:17 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Not to mention 'snatch' - his depiction of an Irish gypsy boxer is superb (but does my wife have to drool every time he removes his shirt? |
Oops, yes I forgot about that. Pitt is funny as all heck in "Snatch".
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 10:45 |
Don't forget "Seven," Pitt wasn't too bad in that one either.
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 14:37 |
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Don't forget "Seven," Pitt wasn't too bad in that one either. |
Woah! Now there is quite the movie.
"What's in the box?"
Bone chilling, almost a horror movie. Brilliant performances and direction. Pitt is outstanding again in "Se7en". I quite literally found myself hating Kevin Spacey in his role. Freeman is brilliant and Paltrow actually does something other than look good, adding just the right seasoning of conflicted feminine anxiety to her role.
"What's in the BOX?!?!?"
I'm afraid that his playing Achilles in "Troy" won't do him any good (I haven't seen the movie, but I'm hearing a lot of mild to seriously negative buzz), but dismissing Brad Pitt as just a pretty boy is a bad mistake as he has serious actor chops and has given some fantastic performances over the last decade.
"AWWW C'MON!!!! WHAT"S IN THE BOX??????"
Given what I've seen of Pitt's acting ability, when choosing to see a movie I'd let his being in it sway me towards the flick, not away from it.
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 15:09 |
Pitt was a great scary redneck in "Kalifornia," and hilarious in "Snatch."
A fine actor, who happens to be very good-looking.
Along the same lines, ever see Johnny Depp in "Ed Wood?" I LOVED that movie!  
"Eddy, pass me dat f**king viskey! Dis water's freezing!"
"OK Bella, great! Now, how about moving it around a little...."
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 19:31 |
Though I don't think much of him as a person, I have to freely admit that Johnny Depp is a wonderful actor with unlimited range and talent.
He's so good that I try to see every movie featuring him that comes out.
Depp single-handedly made "Pirates of the Caribean" a film of depth rather than an effects laden popcorn seller.
And I absolutely loved "Ed Wood"! An actual plot! Character development! Dialogue instead of a series of one-liners! Shazam!
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Posted: May 13 2004 at 02:55 |
Many years ago, there was Depp's transition from the TV schmaltz that was "21 Jump Street" to "Edward Scissorhands"...... any actor who can pull that one off has my vote.....
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Posted: May 13 2004 at 18:48 |
Sorry to change the subject, but......"School of Rock."
I'm not a big fan of this style? of movie, the cheap Hollywood hero in the end kind of schmaltzy pablum. This movie, my kids rented it, has some very funny Spinal Tap worthy moments. The "teacher" Jack Black starts handing out CD's to the classroom kids with talent. He gives the keyboard wizard kid "Fragile" and tells him to check out the keyboard solo on Roundabout, then he gives the black girl with the incredible voice "Dark Side of the Moon" and has her work on "Great Gig in the Sky." Prog gets a small exposure. There are a lot of other rock and roll history nuggets that deserve a chuckle.
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That's it, back to Johnny Depp.... In "Pirates" Depp's Capt'n Sparrow was completely over the top, great. The Ninth Gate was terrific until the end. One of the worst endings ever. Meagor. Great build up and ... and... and... that's it? Sheesh.
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 13 2004 at 19:26 |
danbo wrote:
That's it, back to Johnny Depp.... In "Pirates" Depp's Capt'n Sparrow was completely over the top, great. The Ninth Gate was terrific until the end. One of the worst endings ever. Meagor. Great build up and ... and... and... that's it? Sheesh. |
"Ninth Gate".
Great movie looking for a last 10 minutes. You have to wonder what was up with that?
The movie just goes deeper and deeper into that world and then.....
But you can't blame it on the cast. You DO have to wonder what the writer, producer and director were thinking.
Or if.
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Posted: May 14 2004 at 03:16 |
danbo wrote:
Sorry to change the subject, but......"School of Rock."
The "teacher" Jack Black starts handing out CD's to the classroom kids with talent. He gives the keyboard wizard kid "Fragile" and tells him to check out the keyboard solo on Roundabout, ..
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And did you notice that this child ended up wearing a big cap at the final performance in the 'climax' (ejem ) of the movie? He had become a total Wakey. Then I understood why I wasn't laughting with this movie: it was a terror film! And with a hidden message: 'Children: don't listen to prog or you'll end up like Rick Wakeman'. 
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Posted: May 14 2004 at 09:58 |
danbo wrote:
Sorry to change the subject, but......"School of Rock."
I'm not a big fan of this style? of movie, the cheap Hollywood hero in the end kind of schmaltzy pablum. This movie, my kids rented it, has some very funny Spinal Tap worthy moments. The "teacher" Jack Black starts handing out CD's to the classroom kids with talent. He gives the keyboard wizard kid "Fragile" and tells him to check out the keyboard solo on Roundabout, then he gives the black girl with the incredible voice "Dark Side of the Moon" and has her work on "Great Gig in the Sky." Prog gets a small exposure. There are a lot of other rock and roll history nuggets that deserve a chuckle. |
And there was thin Image on the blackboard...history of Rock or something similar...(you can see this image on the website of the movie)...there was a path leading away from Prog Rock called ??? bands belonging to this ??? genre were Can and Zappa
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TimT
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Posted: May 18 2004 at 18:33 |
for those of you who like LOTR trilogy, have you ever seen the original hybrid cartoon version? it wasnt necessarily the best of films but its interesting watching. My favourites movies have to be the original Star Wars trilogy (couldnt realy say a favourite from them) im also a big fan of Python and the offshots from teh group (including 12 monkeys and jabberwocky)
and also this is my first post so hey to everyone on the board!
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Joren
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Posted: May 19 2004 at 05:27 |
TimT wrote:
for those of you who like LOTR trilogy, have you ever seen the original hybrid cartoon version? it wasnt necessarily the best of films but its interesting watching. My favourites movies have to be the original Star Wars trilogy (couldnt realy say a favourite from them) im also a big fan of Python and the offshots from teh group (including 12 monkeys and jabberwocky)
and also this is my first post so hey to everyone on the board!
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WELCOME ABOARD, TimT! I thought the LOTR movies were OK, but I prefer reading the book. I haven't seen the original cartoon version though.
And there are many Monty Python and Terry Gilliam fans here... I'm one too! 
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Posted: May 19 2004 at 05:47 |
Joren wrote:
I thought the LOTR movies were OK, but I prefer reading the book. I haven't seen the original cartoon version though. |
Trust me, Joren - you don't want to see the cartoon version........ I mean you reeeeaaaalllllyyyyy don't want to see the cartoon version.
The deep thrumming you can hear in Moria isn't the oncoming orcish horde, it's actually Tolkien spinning in his grave!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: May 19 2004 at 06:00 |
Any good pornflicks ????????????
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