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moshkito
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Topic: What would you like to have discussed about Prog? Posted: October 14 2014 at 14:40 |
SteveG wrote:
What subjects, topics, genres, bands, musicians or anything else relating to Prog music that would you like to have discussed? In other words, what's on your mind? |
We'll have to ask George Miller if he has any new ideas for the cars that ate Paris, and if we will have a film made again about some road warrior in time!
This is good already ... I do wish that we made some small changes so that a post with 300 pages is not lost or wasted, and that there was a better link between the interviews and other information on the website, which gets wasted. These links are hiding a lot of information that would really help create the interviews and other information, some of the best on the internet and help make Wiki the stupid and poor idea and work that it is!
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Posted: October 11 2014 at 22:11 |
Passport one of my all time favs although never saw them.Dont know if they played in my area back in the day
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Posted: October 11 2014 at 15:54 |
Rock music has changed greatly since the Beatles commanded the pop charts and media attention. It is now fractured into a thousand different varieties of sub-tractions and things we were. We are re-arranged. All the things we were are deranged. I like "No-Man." So go get into your muse and let the music light your fuse.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: October 11 2014 at 15:41 |
I'm referring to the US stuff too, as well as a pre-rock'n'roll American music. (you know the stuff Tom Waits likes to pastiche, I remember him saying something about how he thinks the Beatles "killed rock music")
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Posted: October 11 2014 at 15:28 |
^By the way what was the kind of rock played in Europe (especially in UK) until the mid-1960s? Let's just put The Beatles apart, because I think their career began even some years before, maybe their first release was in the year 1961 or '62, am I wrong?
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Posted: October 09 2014 at 13:26 |
Concerning the lack of discussion about more modern bands, be it of age or in sound, I'm sort of curious if there's this kind of aesthetic generation gap thing some of the older posters here experience with newer music styles from beyond some cutoff point in the 1980s or 1990s? I'm from 1988 and there's very little music before the mid-1960s I listen to. Even then, a lot of stuff from the 1970s and even the 1980s I don't think really resonates with me the way it does with older audiences. I wonder if some people here are feeling a similar disconnect but from the other end of the line.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 16:02 |
Padraic wrote:
Oddly worded question - do you mean "what would you like to discuss?"
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No.
Ok, you got me, what you said is what I meant. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 13:14 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Hah...I deleted my beard post. Now I wish I hadn't. |
Awe why? You must of shaved or something.
It's ok. I can take the reigns of the beard movement.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 13:13 |
I love Genesis too, and, I'm guessing here, 90% of the upcoming members will probably do so as well
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 13:11 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
Rick Robson wrote:
When the mainstream prog bands (mainly from the seventies) will no longer be the most present in the PA Forum threads? I don't know if the same happens to the other prog rock forums. |
i don't know when that will be or even if that will happen at all. unless someone takes them all out of their site and let people only talk about more unknown bands and new and upcoming ones. that's what i think. |
That will never happen. When have you ever seen PA without a running Genesis poll? I've certainly never witnessed it...... for better or for worse: there are always going to be new folks joining the site, and most often it'll be through the powers of Yes/Genesis/KC/Pink Floyd and perhaps to a lesser extent DT/Radiohead/Tool/PT. It's the fuel that runs this site - even if it got old for some of us.
If people make a genuine effort to talk about new or obscure bands, the thread almost never reaches page 2. Why? maybe there is too much out there, or maybe people are contempt with talking about the same as they always do - or maybe tastes never shift that much (my own not included - they shift with the wind), tell you the truth, I don't know..........but one thing that'll never happen is the demise of say all things Genesis on PA. There will always be a crowd for that. Trust me on this ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif) |
You are right. I will make sure in 40 years time, I will still be carrying the Genesis flag high for all to see! Unless I decide I don't like them anymore between now and then.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 13:07 |
Hah...I deleted my beard post. Now I wish I hadn't.
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 13:02 |
As I appreciate the 'BEARDS' discussion Dave mentioned ( I'd be all for it considering I'm a bearded freak myself) I would be in favour of a very long, scruffy and drawn out on the sub culture behind beards and its connection with the music they play. For example, and this is just my opinion, when Phil Collins had a nice full-beard while with genesis from 1976 to 1978 he was at his very very best vocally in my opinion as well as his song writing.
Genesis as a band really seemed to respond well to him as a front man. I think it's because of the command and respect from the BEARD. Lol.
One more example. Damian Wilson of Threshold who has always been a great singer, but now sporting a decent beard (slightly cropped) is really in full swing and I feel he sounds better than ever.
Ok. One more. Nick mason's crazy handle bar mustache in 1971 to 1973 gave him special powers. He was at his drumming best. Look at him on the DVD 'live in Pompei.' It's pure mustache possession.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 12:44 |
I remember the first month I joined P.A....I posted a reply to a King Crimson thread and some members responded like this..."Well they're not very good". What does that have to do with anything? We should discuss the importance of a band regardless if we personally like them or not. If you can't find the historical significance to a band's music because you dislike it, then that's just being foolish and thinking only of yourself and being dismissive of discussing a topic on facts.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 12:32 |
Stool Man wrote:
Will the old bands continue as tribute bands after all the original members have passed? |
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 12:21 |
Oddly worded question - do you mean "what would you like to discuss?"
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 12:12 |
Who is to replace the aging cadre of prog masters.
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 16:43 |
I would like to go into detail about specific phrasing, recurrent themes, or transitions in pieces of music themselves. I mainly don't do so out of laziness, I guess. Trying to reference specific parts of YouTube vids, I'd end up spending more time on posts than I usually care to. The point remains it'd be nice to get into some nitty gritty, as opposed to broad summations.
I'd also like to see more topics concerning timbre. To me it's the heart and soul of Prog, what separates it from simply fusion or the like. I fear that my enthusiasm would not be shared widely on the site, and any such thread would just die out. I might try something anyway - been thinking about it for awhile.
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 15:58 |
I also just linked to a new thread about one.
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 15:05 |
^Cool. I'll check them out.
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 15:02 |
That's exactly my point. I would love to know more about the obscure projects, because not always it is possible to take time and browse through the myriads of independent band pages. Sometimes I take my time and browse randomly through bandcamp/reverbnation/whatever in search for music. Sometimes I find quite fascinating pieces. Small examples would be Sh.tg.N., RIshloo, The Berserk; FAS; Transport Aerian; Hibernal; The Walkabouts; Zero 7... There are more of course.
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