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barbs 
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 02:09 |
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Re: Seconds Out. I think Phil Collins extended drum solo at the time was considered to be something of a masterpiece.
What would be the consensus here about that?
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 00:52 |
Golden Spiral wrote:
 disagree with you. I think it is definitely a 4 star album but not 5 or 3. |
I can't rate with 4 stars an album that has been mutilated.
It's incredible how they almost vanished Steve Hackett out of the mix using the volume, it's a crime.
Has great songs like the best version of I Know What I Like or Robbery Assault and Battery but the version of Supper's Ready is a joke.
And I hate the way Collins keeps repeating words (And the Lamb, Lies Down, Down, Down, Down...) it's simply annoying.
IMO 3 stars is ok.
Iván
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salmacis
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 17:30 |
maani wrote:
Along with ELP's "Welcome Back" and GG's "Playing the Fool," "Seconds Out" is among the best live prog albums ever recorded. Period.
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Yep 'Seconds Out' is my fave live album of all, but I'd also say 'Exit Stage Left' and 'Yessongs' are among the best too.
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Publius
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 17:28 |
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Well, soon the gypsy queen in a glaze fo vaseline...
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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Tony R
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 15:00 |
maani wrote:
Along with ELP's "Welcome Back" and GG's "Playing the Fool," "Seconds Out" is among the best live prog albums ever recorded. Period.
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I agree with all this except that Welcome Back is rubbish and Playing The Fool is torturous. 
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maani
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 14:48 |
Along with ELP's "Welcome Back" and GG's "Playing the Fool," "Seconds Out" is among the best live prog albums ever recorded. Period.
Peace.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 23:00 |
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i disagree with you. I think it is definitely a 4 star album but
not 5 or 3. Collins makes a fine performance, and I dont know
what mix you were listening to, but my copy is the original vinyl and
sounds just brilliant. perhaps the drums sound different to you
because there are times when there are 2 drummers playing
simultaneously.
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Publius
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:51 |
Cheers 
Yeah I can see how it would be difficult to cart a piano round and I know the difficulty of playing things like that on smaller keyboards. It's impossible, if there ain't enough notes, then you can't play it lol
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:50 |
It was well written although I don't agree with you on several points .
I happened to see both 1976 and 1977 tours with Genesis and had Suppers Ready. Robbery, Asault and Battery while not one of my favorite songs was very well played and no one was not enjoying it. As for the electric piano in the Lamb although Tony played the studio version on a Piano he did not tour with an acoustic piano. His RMI electric one has 61 keys and can and did sound muddy in the mix. It is also the reason the intro to Firth of Fith was rarely played live. Trying to transpose a technical piece like that from 88 keys to 61 keys would be a nightmare. It is not on the Archive version with Gabriel either. I agree with the guitar not being in the mix enough though.
Not bad at all.
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Publius
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:39 |
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Yep. You just can't hear him at all.
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:38 |
Intruder wrote:
Seconds Out....should be called Lack 'o Hackett |
Haha. Definitely agree with that one. It's kind of hard to listen to without Hackett's presence.
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One likes to believe
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But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
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Intruder
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:16 |
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Seconds Out....should be called Lack 'o Hackett
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:46 |
Publius wrote:
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You're welcome
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Publius
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:31 |
thank you
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Bj-1
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:23 |
Nice one
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Publius
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:18 |
I'm gonna keep this thread at the top until somebody replies
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Publius
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:15 |
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Could somebody read my review of Genesis - Seconds Out? I think it's one of my best so far. Tell me what you think, it's on the front page, or you can find it under the name 'Publius' on it's archive page.
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