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*frinspar* ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2008 Location: Arizona Status: Offline Points: 463 |
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I do not like anything Soundgarden did after Louder Than Love. Still have that LP somewhere around the house.
I picked FNM because they were behind, and I like an underdog. ![]() But I hold both Voivod and FNM at about the same level of appreciation. There really is no comparing them for me though. I do, however, appreciate the various lineup changes in FNM more than I have in Voivod. Eric was awful (but I do love Planet Hell), and the stuff when Newsted was in the band always sounds dreary to me. But Target Earth and the new stuff is right back on course for me. |
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MillsLayne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
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Oh yeah, the Knights of the Sound Table for me by far.
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sublime220 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 21 2015 Location: Willow Farm Status: Offline Points: 1563 |
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Soundgarden
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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You definitely might like Die Kreuzen then, they also invoke that sprawling/neuromancer/dystopian vibe, their first self-titled album itself is an impressive heap of wiry Hardcore full bendy riffs, a sputtering rhythm section, etc , but by their 2nd album October File, is where they really start to progress, its a bit of a difficult album to digest at first (the vocals take a bit of getting used to) but you can definitely hear where Voivod got a lot of their riffs, and if you want to dare further check out their 3rd album Century Days, in which they get a little more "song" oriented, but even more experimental
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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I've heard of them but I'm not familiar with their actual music. It's more Amebix and Killing Joke I had in mind, what with both groups having a similar "dystopian future" aesthetic concept informing their music. I kinda wonder if science-fiction lyrics are more appealing to songwriters coming from a punk background than fantasy/horror stuff, on the account of being at least superficially more "realistic"...
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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Interesting point... You're familiar with Die Kreuzen right? the upper midwest Hardcore band turned bizarro... they were often sited as one of Voivod's main influences during the 80s,
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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One possible explanation can be found in the fact that I didn't understand Voivod at all myself until I had developed a working knowledge of punk, a lot of weird things about Piggy's guitar playing style made more sense compositionally when I had become familiar with that side of their influences. That might explain why people on a prog rock forum might not take so easily to them, because to some of the older posters here punk is still the great enemy that killed prog rock's golden age and sent it into the underground. (or that's how the narrative goes....)
I also get the impression Voivod are much more popular in North America, Canada in particular, than in Europe. Around here, they're usually mentioned as one of those groups that are more influential than popular. Edited by Toaster Mantis - March 23 2015 at 03:29 |
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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I guess it depends where you come from. I obviously from more of a Metal background, naturally would go with Voivod, Soundgarden no doubt was one of the most "proggy" and 70s influenced of the grunge bands, and of course Faith No More was creating some pretty creative genre hopping sounds during their time, plus Mike Patton and his legion of fanboys yada yada...
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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I'm actually kind of surprised on a site like this that the Québecois Übermenschen aren't winning in a landslide. Maybe I'm also biased here because I'm an aspiring fanboy of theirs...
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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all bands good in their own right, and Soundgarden was doing stuff that Rock bands these days have yet to catch up with, but Voivod has my loyalty, each of their albums is like a chapter in the greater story which is the Voivod, their influence is already legendary and will last through the ages...
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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Voivod, no question. They've become one of those few music groups that basically are their own genre, and it's telling that 30 years after their debut LP there's still nobody who quite sounds like them even though they're one of the most influential prog metal acts.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Pastmaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 23 2015 Location: Spiderwood Farm Status: Offline Points: 1774 |
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Soundgarden for me.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45548 |
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Voivod out of these three
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addictedtoprog ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 16 2014 Location: india Status: Offline Points: 1422 |
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Soundgarden - my early favourite.
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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2779 |
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Faith No More is the most creative group of these, although Voivod are originals as well. SG was a favorite back in the day, and they are better than all other grunge, but they are still grunge.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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Faith No More
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Sagichim ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
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Soundgarden for me but Faith No More are awesome too.
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zravkapt ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6446 |
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Like all three but FNM was my fave band for a few years in the early '90s.
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Kentucky_Hawkwindage ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 15 2014 Location: Hardinsburg,Ky Status: Offline Points: 733 |
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My preference:Soundgarden by a country mile.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34076 |
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they all shared concert tour in 1990s which sort of defines who the bands should be compared to, and how they should be view in music history, this where they live and bellong, they all three paved their own warping curve where styles and genres falled into, and they are not possible to categorized trully nor reightiously
1990 Tour DatesUSA Dates with Soundgarden / Faith No More opening 1990.01.13 – Detroit, MI 1990.01.15 – Cincinnati, OH 1990.01.16 – Phantasy Theater, Cleveland, OH [POSTER] 1990.01.17 – Pittsburgh, PA 1990.01.18 – The Ritz, New York, NY 1990.01.19 – Sundance, Bayshore, NY 1990.01.20 – Worcester, MA 1990.01.21 – Paradise Ballroom, Boston, MA [AUDIO] 1990.01.22 – Philadelphia, PA 1990.01.25 – Poughkeepsie, NY 1990.01.28 – Baltimore, MD 1990.01.31 – The Roxy Theatre, Hollywood, CA (?) 1990.02.03 – Tampa, FL 1990.02.08 – Number’s, Houston, TX 1990.02.11 – Dallas, TX [PICS] 1990.02.14 – Old Vic Theatre, Chicago, IL 1990.02.19 – The Stone, San Francisco, CA, US (with Soundgarden & Prong) 1990.02.24 – Moore Theater, Seattle, WA 1990.03.04 – Champaign, IL 1990.03.09 – Milwaukee, WI 1990.03.12 – State Theatre, Kalamazoo, MI 1990.03.16 – Trenton, NJ 1990.03.17 – L’Amours, Brooklyn, NY [PICS] 1990.03.18 – The Silo, Reading, PA Edited by aginor - April 08 2014 at 05:40 |
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