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AlexDOM ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 02 2011 Location: Indianapolis Status: Offline Points: 775 |
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Japanese visual kei bands
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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Seeing the photos of them from the first two LPs must have been even more of a shock, then. "Who are these goofy-looking hippies?" For me it's been more of a shock adjusting to PF's later style and aesthetic. I started chronologically with Piper at the Gates of Dawn. Took a while for the Gilmour-fronted incarnation to separate itself completely from Barrett's influences too, which I guess is one reason why Waters doesn't really like anything the band released between PaTGoD and DSoTM.
Perhaps not to the same extent, but the biography I read of Syd Barrett a while ago uncovered that his nervous breakdown and departure from the band had more to do with the stress of suddenly being famous than with drug abuse (though that certainly didn't help) and that must have left some impression on his bandmates. |
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maani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Founding Moderator Joined: January 30 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2632 |
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This is actually an interesting topic, as I, for one, have never (consciously) realized that the visual aesthetic of prog is almost always great, and certainly of a higher caliber and creativity than most (any?) other music genres. After all, from the early Zappa and Floyd album covers, to In the Court (the album - and cover - that probably did more to launch prog rock than anything else), to Roger Dean, Hipgnosis and album covers of Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, and other "seminal" prog bands, through to some of Rush's covers, and then neo-prog and its covers (IQ, Marillion, Pendragon, Spock's Beard et al), and prog metal (Dream Theater, Tool, et al), the visual aesthetic of prog has always been and remains quite extraordinary.
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Something I really loved about Floyd was the fact that I didn't know anything about them - who they were, what they looked like. When so many other artists featured pictures of themselves, I loved how Floyd's albums were devoid of pictures of the band. Mind you, I was in the US, it was the late 70s/early 80s, and I was 12-18. Then I found their older albums (pre-DSOTM) and saw pictures of them, and couldn't help but be disappointed. I liked the mystique of not knowing anything about them... Of course, that was totally and irrevocably shattered by the Waters/Gilmour feud...
I'm sure they never intentionally had a Kiss kind of thing where they tried to hide their identities. But I wish they had.
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Rick Robson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2013 Location: Rio de Janeiro Status: Offline Points: 1607 |
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I always felt in someway seduced by the cover art of this band:
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If there's one thing I like about Opeth, it is their album artwork. I completely agree. King Crimson also has some great art in the 70's (and '69) that suit the style of their music well. And even their 80's albums had a cool theme. Rush also. They did a great job connecting their album art with the themes they were writing about. I can't think of a bad cover of theirs. |
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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I'm reminded of the enigmatic Syphilitic Vaginas, a Swedish metal/punk group who have gone to elaborate lengths to convince the world they're actually Japanese.
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I can think about obvious examples but for the ones that do know Shaolin Death Squad, I think they really commit to the idea about playing in costumes and giving their music more meaning or not cause its bizzarre! haha ![]() |
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Causa Sui is a bodacious and tubular band indeed.
One group whose aesthetic I'm not sure whether I find appealing or goofy is Acid Mothers Temple. The entire "every psychedelic space rock trope ever combined then turned up beyond the impossible" feel I'm not sure whether I find totally bitchin' or whether it just reminds me of a Japanese remake of Cheech & Chong. Doesn't help that I find their music very hit-and-miss. |
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Oh, God, that would have to be Gentle Giant. Just amazing skill and dedication. I've read that on occasion, they'd practically come to fistacuffs if a passage was played wrong live by any one member. Let's not get into their last couple of albums, though.
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Just discovered El Paraiso records, and can't recommend them enough! The label is run by Causa Sui, a great band, and releases other psychedelic instrumental music with a similar vibe, mostly on vinyl. The reason I mention it here is the the packaging for all their releases is amazing. The artwork is in a retro and organic vein and really fits with the musical ideas. Also the vinyl is often in different colours.
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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Oddly enough, Laibach haven't quite clicked for me yet. Then again, last year NON finally did that after me trying desperately to in vain... so I guess there's hope after all.
And yes, I do find art using totalitarian aesthetics in a more ambiguous or flirtatious manner more genuinely insightful about the appeal of said ideologies than that which is explicitly critical of it. Which I think is the point of the early goth/industrial scene's toying around with that stuff. (should perhaps also mention that Laibach used as much Soviet as Fascist symbolism, and in a more obviously satirical fashion than usual for the genre) Edited by Toaster Mantis - March 18 2014 at 03:39 |
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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I never said Laibach were a Fascist band (I"ve never even heard them) but merely pointed out that Toaster Mantis might like their look based on his description of a visual aesthetic he described thus: cryptofascist chic seems to just gel perfectly in a way that speaks to something within my soul My avatar is that of a small furry rodent, do you really think I am a small furry rodent? Do you think these men photographed in 2003 really are Nazis because they're dressed as Nazis? ![]() |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Amon Düül ll had a really cool thang going for them at one point. I especially dig their lion costume "era":)
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Svetonio ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
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I don't care. I pointed out that for many who don't know the band, so they may think that it is a fact that the Laibach was formed as a fascist band. It simply wasn't possible in former Yugoslavia at that time. Edited by Svetonio - March 17 2014 at 10:46 |
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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^ regardless, it was more that dark little door they appear to have nudged ajar in the Toaster Mantis soul that troubled me
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