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Lyzarrd 
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 Topic: Flower Kings: where to start?
Posted: August 08 2005 at 20:50 |
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I suggest either Roine Stolt's solo work or Back in the World
Adventures. Both give some great stuff with an epic involved without
having WAY too much on the album as some other Flower King releases.
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Chris88
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 20:49 |
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Explain how are they copycats?
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James Hill
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 20:37 |
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The most consistant Flower Kings cd is Space Revolver and The Rainmaker.Stay away from the double albums.If you want good Swedish Prog start with Anglagard or Anekdoten not copycats like Ronie Stolt and the boys.
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Tiresias
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 18:27 |
Try out the Meet the Flower Kings CD (or DVD)
My Intro to TFK
All the songs are epics.
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Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn...
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Sir Hogweed
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 13:19 |
 TheProgtologist wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
BTW: Check out the solo albums as well - Roine Stolt - Hydrophonia is breathtaking. Tomas Bodin also released some pretty nice albums ... |
Might wanna also check out The Tangent too(Stolt,Reingold and Csorsz)and Kaipa.
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The new Tomas Bodin release I AM is also a must for Flowerheads. It's a great progrock opera with some great vocals. It is in the style of the epics whe wrote with TFK (Garden Of Dreams, The Truth Will Set You Free) with some Pink Floyd(wailing), Deep Purple (screaming) and Wagner (orgastic finales) influences thrown in.
I sort of liked his earlier instrumental output but this one completely blew me away and I like it even better than Adam & Eve at the moment. It also features Reingold and Liliequist on drums (check out this new TFK drummer). Nice stuff to keep you going untill the next TFK release.
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 05:30 |
I would recommend Retropolis or Space Revolver as starters - 2 asbolutely best TFK albums, in my opinion, then - Stardust We Are and FlowerPower.
If you like it all, procede and buy all the rest and you won't be disappointed.
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 02:47 |
You're entitled to your opinion.
I personally feel that the direction is certainly there, it just takes
a bit more work to find it than some, it's subtle oftentimes.
I find each album to be a rewarding experience in its own right, and I
have yet to find a TFK album that does not have its own very distinct
feel. With that said, I wouldn't jettison any of them. 
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richardh
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 02:42 |
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Unfold The Future is the best I've heard.....don't bother buying any others as they all sound the same.
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I don't think it's right to spread that sort of ignorance, unless you truly believe that an album of electronic ambient experimentation with Eastern themes sounds exactly like an album of twisted, poppy symphonic rock. You lose. 
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I honestly feel that I've spent too much money on this band's albums.They are full of jazzy,meandering symphonic style prog with little direction.Very impressive instrumentally but it all becomes a gigantic haze too me.They are a band with great talent but very little focus or genuine ideas that crystallize into anything.They do recall seventies prog better than any other modern prog bands and that may be some credit to them but personally I'm now a bit bored by them.I would be quite happy just to own 'Unfold The Future' and jettison the rest.That is just my opinion.Sorry.
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:18 |
richardh wrote:
Unfold The Future is the best I've heard.....don't bother buying any others as they all sound the same. |
I don't think it's right to spread that sort of ignorance, unless you
truly believe that an album of electronic ambient experimentation with
Eastern themes sounds exactly like an album of twisted, poppy symphonic
rock. You lose.
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 08:27 |
I would also like to reccomend unfold the future. Back in the world of adventures was the first FKs cd i bought and i think it may be the best starting point.  buy them both or better yet go online and order every single one of them,you wont look back. 
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 07:43 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
BTW: Check out the solo albums as well - Roine Stolt - Hydrophonia is breathtaking. Tomas Bodin also released some pretty nice albums ... |
Might wanna also check out The Tangent too(Stolt,Reingold and Csorsz)and Kaipa.
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 07:41 |
Snow Dog wrote:
This is starting to be a trend, but sorry, I would recommend Space Revolver too! A very good album with an outstanding opening track! Great bass and drums throughout, and a great package! |
Same here,great album and a fav of mine.
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 05:29 |
| richardh
Unfold The Future is the best I've heard.....don't bother buying any others as they all sound the same.
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That's not true.
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 05:25 |
Ty1020 wrote:
After listening to (and loving) the samples from this site for some time now, I've decided that I need to go buy a Flower Kings album. Based on the rating thread, every one of their albums seems to have something good about it, but I want to know which one I should get first. I'm thinking either Unfold the Future or Space Revolver would be good, but since the quality of their discography is pretty consistent, I was wondering if there was any particular point I should jump in at. |
Unfold The Future is the best I've heard.....don't bother buying any others as they all sound the same.
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:22 |
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BTW: Check out the solo albums as well - Roine Stolt - Hydrophonia is breathtaking. Tomas Bodin also released some pretty nice albums ...
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:18 |
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This is starting to be a trend, but sorry, I would recommend Space Revolver too! A very good album with an outstanding opening track! Great bass and drums throughout, and a great package!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 19:57 |
Ty1020 wrote:
After listening to (and loving) the samples from this site for some time now, I've decided that I need to go buy a Flower Kings album. Based on the rating thread, every one of their albums seems to have something good about it, but I want to know which one I should get first. I'm thinking either Unfold the Future or Space Revolver would be good, but since the quality of their discography is pretty consistent, I was wondering if there was any particular point I should jump in at. |
Space Revolver.
(unless you're heavily into Jazz ... but if you like Space Revolver, get Unfold The Future as well ... and then Retropolis, Stardust, Flower Power, Back in the World of Adventures and The Rainmaker ... and maybe even Adam & Eve.)
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 19:55 |
I agree, 'space revolver' is a good place to start, it is a single CD and a little less to digest than the big double ones. It is a solid effort, with a good mix of their styles and ideas.
The big doubles are all different, 'Unfold the future' is jazzy/improv almost..
so for that reason (even though UTF is wonderful) I would go for either 'Stardust we are' or 'Flower power' first.
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 19:53 |
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Yeah, try Space Revolver. Yet, I started out with Adam & Eve and now have all their albums. They're all great!
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 19:43 |
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Try Stardust We Are!
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