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Atavachron
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Topic: Are they drunk? or are they just nuts etc Posted: November 06 2013 at 20:20 |
Yes, and promptly dismissed it.
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 06 2013 at 16:08 |
Atavachron wrote:
It's compelling, that should be enough.
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have you ever thought of comedy as a profession..?
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 06 2013 at 11:53 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Real history is hard, inconclusive, depressing, and very seldom comforting.
Fake history is easy, decisive, establishes order, and is entertaining.
Advertisers prefer the latter and quite correctly because most people do too.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 23:36 |
It's compelling, that should be enough.
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 22:34 |
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There is compelling evidence that Jack the Ripper was the Loch Ness Monster. |
I'd love to hear that compelling evidence...please share it with us all.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 20:06 |
There is compelling evidence that Jack the Ripper was the Loch Ness Monster.
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 18:42 |
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I thought the videos were for some new prog metal band |
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 18:27 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
...... What I find amusing is the handful of guests who regularly appear throughout the series and call themselves "Ancient Alien Theorists". They remind me of "Crypto-Zoologists", there's no educational requirements, no doctorate program, no qualifications of any kind, you just start calling yourself that and you become one |
Yup..kind of like those people who consider themselves experts on prog rock.
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thay dutch guy is funny
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 18:10 |
dr wu23 wrote:
aginor wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
aginor wrote:
yes, i made that conclusion myself, i find its interesting and ther is something out there im sure, be it in this universe or in anther universe (if there is any more of them,) or in another dimension then ours, or we are......all........alone, i actualy think there is actualy quite reaasnoble to think that we are alone as well as to think maybe someplace out there in the wastness of our univsrse is ther lifeforms
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Can you elaborate on why you think it's 'reasonable' to think we are alone in the Universe?
It would seem, based on the odds alone regarding earth based or habitable planets, that there would be all kinds of various life forms out there. | from things i have seenn regarding how much it is that has to be right to be able to be life sustainable, its seems it is so much comming into teh ecuation, the seize of the planet, the magnetisme of the star, the size of the star, the warmth of the star, the stability of the star, the distence from said star to a planet in its orbit, that planets size, its weight/mass, is it able to hold on its own atmosphere, and not overheat, or get it blown of,
im not saying that our solar system is the sole benecial way for a life on a orbitual object, but that its from what i have read and seen on TV quite lot of happenstance and randomness at hand.
Universe is like a play of dice, its difficult to know the right outcome. |
The fact that the Galaxy is so large (and I'm not even talking about the Universe here..) seems to lead us to the idea that it's quite likely that there are sentient species out there. I've read some science mags, mostly Discover, and seen science programs (not History channel) and a good many (the majority?) of exobiologists, biologists, evolutionists, etc seem to think it's a very good bet that life is out there. That doesn't mean 'they' have visited earth and are doing so now and I'm also skeptical about that.....but imo it's probably a safe bet that there are multiple species, some below us, some even with us, and some more advanced than us inhabiting various worlds out there. The problem comes in thinking about how they might get here since space is so vast and dangerous regarding interstellar travel. |
Neither opinion is a safe assumption. We just don't know.
Any guess is no better than flipping a coin or rolling a dice. The odds of there being one planet bearing intelligent life in the Universe (or Galaxy) is exactly the same as two planets, finding two planets with intelligent life does not change the odds of finding a third. The only accurate statement we can make is that the probability of there being more than zero intelligent life bearing planets in the Milky Way galaxy is exactly one.
Whatever method you use for arriving at a conclusion it is all based upon assumptions and "educated guesses", even the Drake equation relies on 7 major assumptions of uncertain value, which in turn are based upon many more assumptions. We only have the data from one observed intelligent species occupying one mediocre planet orbiting an insignificant star in the backwater of a nondescript galaxy to go on and everything we know about the possibility of life on other planets is extrapolated from that one single data-point. Statistics, even using the huge number of galaxies in the Universe and the huge number of stars in each galaxy, do not demonstrate that we are not alone or that we are alone.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 18:05 |
dr wu23 wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
...... What I find amusing is the handful of guests who regularly appear throughout the series and call themselves "Ancient Alien Theorists". They remind me of "Crypto-Zoologists", there's no educational requirements, no doctorate program, no qualifications of any kind, you just start calling yourself that and you become one |
Yup..kind of like those people who consider themselves experts on prog rock.
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 17:48 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
...... What I find amusing is the handful of guests who regularly appear throughout the series and call themselves "Ancient Alien Theorists". They remind me of "Crypto-Zoologists", there's no educational requirements, no doctorate program, no qualifications of any kind, you just start calling yourself that and you become one |
Yup..kind of like those people who consider themselves experts on prog rock.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Dean
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 17:29 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Real history is hard, inconclusive, depressing, and very seldom comforting.
Fake history is easy, decisive, establishes order, and is entertaining.
Advertisers prefer the latter and quite correctly because most people do too.
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Yup.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 17:19 |
I've watched the whole series and find it very enjoyable and thought provoking. Examining archaeological evidence and providing alternative theories as to it's origin or purpose with no chance of being proven or dis-proven has a certain Lovecraftian charm! What I find amusing is the handful of guests who regularly appear throughout the series and call themselves "Ancient Alien Theorists". They remind me of "Crypto-Zoologists", there's no educational requirements, no doctorate program, no qualifications of any kind, you just start calling yourself that and you become one
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 15:28 |
I tried to watch one of the episodes, but it was funny for only the first 15 minutes. It becomes quickly boring.
Furthermore, I already read these kind of crazy theories from other authors, more... Er, let's say, "talented". Talented in a twisted way, but talented anyhow.
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 10:19 |
aginor wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
aginor wrote:
yes, i made that conclusion myself, i find its interesting and ther is something out there im sure, be it in this universe or in anther universe (if there is any more of them,) or in another dimension then ours, or we are......all........alone, i actualy think there is actualy quite reaasnoble to think that we are alone as well as to think maybe someplace out there in the wastness of our univsrse is ther lifeforms
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Can you elaborate on why you think it's 'reasonable' to think we are alone in the Universe?
It would seem, based on the odds alone regarding earth based or habitable planets, that there would be all kinds of various life forms out there. | from things i have seenn regarding how much it is that has to be right to be able to be life sustainable, its seems it is so much comming into teh ecuation, the seize of the planet, the magnetisme of the star, the size of the star, the warmth of the star, the stability of the star, the distence from said star to a planet in its orbit, that planets size, its weight/mass, is it able to hold on its own atmosphere, and not overheat, or get it blown of,
im not saying that our solar system is the sole benecial way for a life on a orbitual object, but that its from what i have read and seen on TV quite lot of happenstance and randomness at hand.
Universe is like a play of dice, its difficult to know the right outcome. |
The fact that the Galaxy is so large (and I'm not even talking about the Universe here..) seems to lead us to the idea that it's quite likely that there are sentient species out there. I've read some science mags, mostly Discover, and seen science programs (not History channel) and a good many (the majority?) of exobiologists, biologists, evolutionists, etc seem to think it's a very good bet that life is out there. That doesn't mean 'they' have visited earth and are doing so now and I'm also skeptical about that.....but imo it's probably a safe bet that there are multiple species, some below us, some even with us, and some more advanced than us inhabiting various worlds out there. The problem comes in thinking about how they might get here since space is so vast and dangerous regarding interstellar travel.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 10:08 |
Real history is hard, inconclusive, depressing, and very seldom comforting.
Fake history is easy, decisive, establishes order, and is entertaining.
Advertisers prefer the latter and quite correctly because most people do too.
Edited by Equality 7-2521 - November 05 2013 at 10:10
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 09:34 |
dr wu23 wrote:
aginor wrote:
yes, i made that conclusion myself, i find its interesting and ther is something out there im sure, be it in this universe or in anther universe (if there is any more of them,) or in another dimension then ours, or we are......all........alone, i actualy think there is actualy quite reaasnoble to think that we are alone as well as to think maybe someplace out there in the wastness of our univsrse is ther lifeforms
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Can you elaborate on why you think it's 'reasonable' to think we are alone in the Universe?
It would seem, based on the odds alone regarding earth based or habitable planets, that there would be all kinds of various life forms out there. |
from things i have seenn regarding how much it is that has to be right to be able to be life sustainable, its seems it is so much comming into teh ecuation, the seize of the planet, the magnetisme of the star, the size of the star, the warmth of the star, the stability of the star, the distence from said star to a planet in its orbit, that planets size, its weight/mass, is it able to hold on its own atmosphere, and not overheat, or get it blown of, im not saying that our solar system is the sole benecial way for a life on a orbitual object, but that its from what i have read and seen on TV quite lot of happenstance and randomness at hand. Universe is like a play of dice, its difficult to know the right outcome.
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 09:30 |
Remember, the universe is big. Like really big. I'd say it's likely that SOMEWHERE there are other life forms, but not necessarily anywhere close enough to conceivably ever be able to reach us.
I'm no skeptic, though. I'm a strong believer of the idea that we as a race have not even begun to understand what's out there.
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 09:21 |
aginor wrote:
yes, i made that conclusion myself, i find its interesting and ther is something out there im sure, be it in this universe or in anther universe (if there is any more of them,) or in another dimension then ours, or we are......all........alone, i actualy think there is actualy quite reaasnoble to think that we are alone as well as to think maybe someplace out there in the wastness of our univsrse is ther lifeforms
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Can you elaborate on why you think it's 'reasonable' to think we are alone in the Universe?
It would seem, based on the odds alone regarding earth based or habitable planets, that there would be all kinds of various life forms out there.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Icarium
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Posted: November 05 2013 at 09:15 |
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