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Andy Webb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
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If you want to discuss why Buckethead should be added, do it in the thread that was linked on the front page that has been raging since the beginning of time. I'm sure every argument you could possibly come up with has already been answered in that monstrosity of a thread.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15344 |
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How could you possibly have artists like KATE BUSH, STEELY DAN, QUEEN, WISHBONE ASH or countless others on the prog related category and not BUCKETHEAD? It seems that nobody wants to take the time to check out his vast discography. I have heard enough to be of the opinion that he should be on here. He ranges from the straight on metal to experimental to prog.
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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This is prog This is not prog.
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Smurph ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 11 2012 Location: Columbus&NYC Status: Offline Points: 3167 |
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Well you guys are forgetting the 30 albums he's released this year.
Someone needs to check them out fully and spend time deciding if it's Prog or not. Maybe he will head in that direction. |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18586 |
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I believe some of Bucketed One's "proggier" moments to be on the earlier Praxis albums like Transmutation (Mutatis Mutandis) and Metatron. Those are more or less funk-fusion albums.
I think some of his solo albums like Giant Robot, Population Override and maybe the two Chicken Noodles albums (which feature only himself and Travis Dickerson on Rhodes piano) could be categorized as "Prog Related" in that the latter are neo-jazz and the former are conceptual with stylistic/thematic shifts. Then there's stuff like Enter The Chicken which is most definitely NOT prog. |
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Bosh66 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2009 Location: Bolton, Lancs Status: Offline Points: 528 |
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Not sure if this is the reason or not. I doubt it, although his discography is certainly daunting. From what I've heard, this gentleman certainly has released progressive music. If anyone does want to provide a review before ProgArchives get their collective heads around this one (or not), they could of course keep it in the family and vist the nice people on MMA - |
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Sheavy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 28 2010 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 2866 |
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^ because smurph totally didn't make that an obvious quote.
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tupan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 22 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1241 |
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^Impressive!
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"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)
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Smurph ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 11 2012 Location: Columbus&NYC Status: Offline Points: 3167 |
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The original box set could be purchased as either a box set or separately.[3] There seems to be no underlying theme or thread to the songs on the separate discs, and they feature many different and diverse styles of music. In addition, each song stands alone; none of the tracks fade into each other. The set also lacks any type of track listing as all the songs are untitled, however, unofficial track names have been assigned by fans of Buckethead which are known to reflect his personality and his previous work. As such, references to past material are present. There are a total of 92 songs in the set ranging in lengths from 0:33 to 19:45, not including "Vol. 13: E" which is one unbroken 45-minute track. Buckethead drew the covers on each set of In Search of The until he reached the 999th copy.[4] All further copies available are no longer hand-made and feature the same artwork from set to set.[5] |
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Smurph ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 11 2012 Location: Columbus&NYC Status: Offline Points: 3167 |
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I listened to some of the new Pikes albums. Now he did just release around 19 or 20 albums within THIS YEAR very recently.
It might be worth checking out some of those. Anyone that actually really likes Buckethead and doesn't think he is prog rock should do this. I tried to listen to all the songs that were over 10 minutes long and while I found them to kind of have progressive elements, obvious virtuoso skill, etc... I find his work to have less modal changes, layered counterpoint, time signature changes, and more 'progressive type guitar solos' instead of progressive riffs. Often times there isn't much variance in riffs during the much longer songs and I find him to be more on the experimental music but not prog side of things. |
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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Xonty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2013 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 1759 |
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He's definitely prog or at least "Prog-Related" and how is his discography too complicated? Just because he puts out a lot of albums?
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13795 |
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And I respect yours, honestly. However, this is one of those cases which has been discussed almost to death, and he will never be added. Too many people disagree with your opinion.
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
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Luna ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
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I have no idea how he isn't prog enough to be on this site.
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13795 |
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No it's not. It's because he ain't prog
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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^ so you say
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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That's because it's not true, just nonsense.
Inb4 Buckethead debate.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Tuzvihar ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
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^ That's a stupid reason.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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the reason he will not be added is because his discography is too complicated
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