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Direct Link To This Post Topic: New Rush Boxset & Vapor Trails Remixed!
    Posted: October 24 2013 at 16:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2013 at 02:25
Does anyone have the newest Rush box set or the VT remix?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2013 at 11:06
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.

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Granted, it's a remix, not a rerecord. The music itself hasn't been changed.

The "George Lucas of Prog"...Edgar Froese of Tangerine Dream gets that title. He's owned it since the '90s.


LOL 
Some of the TD "remixes" are indeed atrocious. I remember buying the new and improved Tangram in a record store some years ago.....I ended up swapping it for Zeit the next day. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2013 at 10:58
To me it's just the record company wanting more money
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2013 at 12:47
I don't know how anyone could prefer a sub-par mix over an enhanced one. Better is better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2013 at 14:24
Personally, I think Vapor Trails is a fantastic Rush album. I'll buy the remixed version just so I can A:B them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2013 at 14:22
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.

Rush: The George Lucas of Canadian Prog Rock.


Granted, it's a remix, not a rerecord. The music itself hasn't been changed.

The "George Lucas of Prog"...Edgar Froese of Tangerine Dream gets that title. He's owned it since the '90s.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2013 at 14:07
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Look at Clockwork Angels. This is still going to be a loud mix. It might be loud and clear now, and less muddy, but they dynamism of the 80s and 70s is long gone.


What he said ! They can mix or mash it all they want but it's the songs that count . Why not just delete the CD & save everyone sum money ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2013 at 11:45
Up till the whole talk of "loudness wars" on the www, I never thought VT sounded bad when I bought the CD, I still don't.
 
Now I have heard lossy digital files of the album.......That does sound horrible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2013 at 02:32
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.

Why does this bother you? You can listen to the old version as long as you like and nobody's going to take its magic away from you. I know there's a lot of us who think the songs are good, but it's just way too tiresome to listen because of the sound. If anything this move will bring the album more listeners (if the remixes are good, that is). I personally have been waiting for years for this release.


It doesn't bother me that people want to listen to a cleaner version, but that when this gets released it will become the definitive version of the album, and future generations will lose something in their appreciation of the album because that wall-of-sound, garage rock quality to it will be lost; which is a very important part of the album and enhances it's raw, emotional quality, in my opinion.  It's not that I oppose the idea of a remix as much as I oppose the idea of the original being forgotten and the remix being the version that's remembered.  To me, the plus side of having another version of the album with all the parts clearer so I can appreciate the intricacy of the recording more is kind of outweighed by the loss of that raw quality to it.


No one's going to forget the original. But it's almost universally recognized as sounding pretty terrible. If this new mix is better, then the original with be mentioned mostly in passing as a casualty of the Loudness War. If you happen to like how is sounds ok, but most listeners don't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2013 at 20:38
Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.

Why does this bother you? You can listen to the old version as long as you like and nobody's going to take its magic away from you. I know there's a lot of us who think the songs are good, but it's just way too tiresome to listen because of the sound. If anything this move will bring the album more listeners (if the remixes are good, that is). I personally have been waiting for years for this release.


It doesn't bother me that people want to listen to a cleaner version, but that when this gets released it will become the definitive version of the album, and future generations will lose something in their appreciation of the album because that wall-of-sound, garage rock quality to it will be lost; which is a very important part of the album and enhances it's raw, emotional quality, in my opinion.  It's not that I oppose the idea of a remix as much as I oppose the idea of the original being forgotten and the remix being the version that's remembered.  To me, the plus side of having another version of the album with all the parts clearer so I can appreciate the intricacy of the recording more is kind of outweighed by the loss of that raw quality to it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2013 at 20:16
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

I don't see how the remix of a bad cd, can make a whole difference. Do i really want to hear some uninspiring songs with a different sound. You could change plenty of technical things, but you won't change the spirit of those songs.

Vapor Trails is a great album, not prog - but that's the appeal of it for me. Sorry. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2013 at 20:11
This is good news (provided they've done a good job). Vapor Trails has some magical Rush music on it, but the crap sound has always made listening to the whole album in one sitting headache inducing. Now they just need to remix Clockwork Angels. /sigh
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2013 at 08:10
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.

Why does this bother you? You can listen to the old version as long as you like and nobody's going to take its magic away from you. I know there's a lot of us who think the songs are good, but it's just way too tiresome to listen because of the sound. If anything this move will bring the album more listeners (if the remixes are good, that is). I personally have been waiting for years for this release.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2013 at 07:14
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.

the loud sound quality was the album's main criticism... at least by old people anyway
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2013 at 23:32
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2013 at 23:29
This is terrible.  Now everyone is going to listen to the stupid remixed version of Vapor Trails, and that is all they will remember, and the magic of the original recording will begin to fade.  I was really hoping that they would never get this done.  Crap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2013 at 23:21
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

I don't see how the remix of a bad cd, can make a whole difference. Do i really want to hear some uninspiring songs with a different sound. You could change plenty of technical things, but you won't change the spirit of those songs.
I heard that Vapor Trails is very good. A lot of people are excited by this. Don't rain on people's parade.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2013 at 23:19
Look at Clockwork Angels. This is still going to be a loud mix. It might be loud and clear now, and less muddy, but they dynamism of the 80s and 70s is long gone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2013 at 13:27
I don't see how the remix of a bad cd, can make a whole difference. Do i really want to hear some uninspiring songs with a different sound. You could change plenty of technical things, but you won't change the spirit of those songs.
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