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    Posted: September 02 2014 at 21:01
Originally posted by Archeus Archeus wrote:


There is no such thing as "the greatest rock band ever"... Anyway, I absolutely dislike The Rolling Stones, they're not my cup of tea at all Dead


Totally agree with that statement.
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There is no such thing as "the greatest rock band ever"... Anyway, I absolutely dislike The Rolling Stones, they're not my cup of tea at all Dead


Edited by Archeus - September 02 2014 at 17:11
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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

All a matter of opinion for which band works 'better' sonically for you, but did the Stones really produce a DSOTM?
I think not. Floyd adapted with the times and threw something completely innovative that the public just ate up.

2nd highest selling album of all time. Only that freakin' Thriller by MJ destroys that Floyd sales total.

Can't base this on everything, but when Floyd were rolling....they rolled over everyone including those damn old stones!

Of course, man! 'cause e.g. Exile On Main Street is, say, "avant-rock" and/or "underground" in comparision with, say, "psychedelia-related" and/or a-bit-less-than-super-super-super-commercial stuff as DSOTM as well.


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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

All a matter of opinion for which band works 'better' sonically for you, but did the Stones really produce a DSOTM?
I think not. Floyd adapted with the times and threw something completely innovative that the public just ate up.

2nd highest selling album of all time. Only that freakin' Thriller by MJ destroys that Floyd sales total.

Can't base this on everything, but when Floyd were rolling....they rolled over everyone including those damn old stones!

Of course, man! 'cause e.g. Exile On Main Street is, say, "avant-rock" and/or "underground" in comparision with, say, "psychedelia-related" and/or a-bit-less-than-super-super-super-commercial stuff as DSOTM as well.
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All a matter of opinion for which band works 'better' sonically for you, but did the Stones really produce a DSOTM?
I think not. Floyd adapted with the times and threw something completely innovative that the public just ate up.

2nd highest selling album of all time. Only that freakin' Thriller by MJ destroys that Floyd sales total.

Can't base this on everything, but when Floyd were rolling....they rolled over everyone including those damn old stones!


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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

The Beatles. Next question.
 
Now there's a band that's often overrated.....but I'd still take them over The Stones and Floyd.
 
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I think it all depends on:

1. What style of music you're looking for .

2. Who you think executed their intentions better.

Honestly, a world without either would be a very boring musical world indeed. Pink Floyd helped me get into prog in the first place, while the Rolling Stones have been part of my childhood.  I remember listening to AOL Radio at the time and was willing to miss the climax of Yes' "Close To The Edge" just so I could hear "2000 Man".

Also, The Rolling Stones "mainstream garbage"? Really?
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The Beatles. Next question.
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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

The Stones have achieved greater commercial success, that doesn't mean they made better music it only means they were better at making money...


The Stones' catalogue is way better than PF musicaly too imo.
 
The Stones do have more  albums in their catalogue than Floyd and it can be argued that their best albums might outweigh Floyd's best  in number but their songs and albums on an individual basis aren't better in quality per se imho.
Let It Bleed or Exiles isn't 'better' than DSOTM or WYWH...they are all excellent in their own way.
 
 
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My personal opinion only:

The Stones came up with a few interesting songs way back in the 60s, but afterwards they quickly evolved into a commercial rock  group, distinguished by their rudimentary (even by the rock standards) musicianship and remarkable audacity to recycle the same trite melody lines from one platinum album to another. 

Pink Floyd is not among my favorite bands; I do like The Dark Side, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, and one or two tracks from other albums, and that's about it. I'm not into the Syd Barrett era at all ..

.. but:

1. Roger Waters as a poet and philosopher has no peers in the pop/rock culture. It's kind of handy to have a guy like him as the band lyricist. 

2. IMO, Pink Floyd were the first band to use the synthetic sound for expressing intellectually complex and esthetically advanced musical ideas. Before them, the synthetic sound had largely belonged to the category of "electronic experimentation" and was only sporadically thrown in by those bands who wanted to sound 'psychedelic" without conveying any specific message.  

3. The audio-visual multidimensional experience is, again, something that Pink Floyd made into an art form in its own right. 

Bottom Line: Rolling Stones should be rated in the "most prolific bands" category (but then again, the James Last Orchestra may beat them with the musical equivalent of the 2014 Cup Germany-Brazil score). 


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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

The Stones have achieved greater commercial success, that doesn't mean they made better music it only means they were better at making money...


The Stones' catalogue is way better than PF musicaly too imo.
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The Stones have achieved greater commercial success, that doesn't mean they made better music it only means they were better at making money...
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The Stones are much greater band than Pink Floyd imo.
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Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Pink Floyd. No need to discuss that Stern Smile

Stones = mainstream rock garbage
Floyd = beautiful, authentic, innovative, mind-blowing MUSIC

'mainstream rock garbage'

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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jagger/ Richards wrote The First Cut Is The Deepest
No they didn't, it was Cat Stevens.

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After several years touring the United States with the Revue, she came to England in 1966 when the Revue toured there in support of The Rolling Stones. Impressed by her powerful and soulful voice, Mick Jagger convinced Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham to sign Arnold to a recording contract with his newly founded Immediate Records record label. Arnold quit the Turner band to remain in London and establish a solo career.
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Originally posted by ESHWOR KC ESHWOR KC wrote:

which one is the greatest rock band ever? has pink floyd achieved more than the rolling stones. Which is the greatest please comment.

Music fans love them both for different reasons...both have had massive global success and influnced thousands of musicians...both have entertained millions of concert goers...I have to give my vote for the Stones though for the fact of the sheer weight of their musical history...many people have never heard "Comfortably Numb" but everyone has heard "Satisfaction"...60's drug busts...Sympathy for the Devil...Altamont...Mick and Keith...dozens of albums...Pink Floyd are huge but they can't compete with the Stones 50+ year legacy.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.


I said mainstream garbage Wink (some of their earlier stuff is alright though). Anyway, Floyd and Stones are both mainstream, but for very different reasons...

 

No.....they are 'mainstream' for the same reason; they were both embraced by the public at at large, radio, etc.,  which made their music 'mainstream'.

The fact that you like Floyd better is a personal choice, nothing more.

 

The original poster said 'rock band' in his first post btw and while they both fall under that broad category they are like apples and oranges as far as the styles involved. To dismiss the Stones as 'mainstream garbage' shows a lack of understanding about the whole music scene , it's origins, and it's various paths.

 


How could I ever disagree with this statement. Well done. Your answer is what I shall adopt in regards To this thread. :)
Apples and oranges. I could never compare the 2, but I can say which I do prefer sound wise difinitively. ;)
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Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Pink F;oyd are mainstream too.

I said mainstream garbage Wink (some of their earlier stuff is alright though). Anyway, Floyd and Stones are both mainstream, but for very different reasons...
 
No.....they are 'mainstream' for the same reason; they were both embraced by the public at at large, radio, etc.,  which made their music 'mainstream'.
The fact that you like Floyd better is a personal choice, nothing more.
 
The original poster said 'rock band' in his first post btw and while they both fall under that broad category they are like apples and oranges as far as the styles involved. To dismiss the Stones as 'mainstream garbage' shows a lack of understanding about the whole music scene , it's origins, and it's various paths.
 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jagger/ Richards wrote The First Cut Is The Deepest
No they didn't, it was Cat Stevens.
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