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    Posted: July 29 2018 at 18:52
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The Road is really powerful -- one of the best and most harrowing novels that I have read. I did get nightmares for some time after reading it. My wife got me to read it after she finished reading it as she thought the father/son relationship would make it all the more poignant to me. I read it one sitting too.
I loved the book and the movie was just as jarring. Viggo Mortensen is really good in it. 

I'm not sure how many of you saw this movie, but it's a New Zealand produced time travel movie called The Navigator: A Medieval Odyssey.

The movie takes place during the Black Death in 14th century Cumbria (northwest England), and involves a time travel quest to the 20th century in order to save a village doomed by the plague. Great use of black and white to mirror the dreary plague years of the 14th century, changing to vibrant color (borrowed from medieval stained glass and the painted miniatures found in period Books of Hours) and an almost Bosch-like feel as the villagers strive in a strange land to fulfill their mission.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2018 at 17:34
The Road is really powerful -- one of the best and most harrowing novels that I have read. I did get nightmares for some time after reading it. My wife got me to read it after she finished reading it as she thought the father/son relationship would make it all the more poignant to me. I read it one sitting too.

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interesting topic.. there has been one movie  that really set me back a loop.  Made me go WTF and I literally spent days, weeks with this movie at the forefront of my consciousness.  Coincidently the only modern movie I put in my top 10 alltime favs.

but that isn't the thread for that.. it is for the other other media.

There was a book that did the same for me.  Completely emotionally shattering experience to read, and spent days, weeks and I couldn't get out of the forefront of my consciousness what I had read.  

Cormac's The Road.  A simply shattering emotional experience to read.. yet one could not put it down. I remember a friend gave it to me to read.  I started reading it at work, was so...  emotionally invested I-turned my work phone off and parked the work van  in a cul-de-sac and read till quiting time, got back home and hardly with a word to Raff I plopped down on the couch and read until I finished the book.  


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Don't know why I failed to respond before, but better late than never. Saw Cube when it was still quite a recent film, and seen the sequels, but I haven't seen Eden Log.

Seen many good ones since I made this topic.

One of my favourite more modern ones is High-Rise, which I have brought up in other threads.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




I'd love to find some more films of the Delicatessen, City of Lost Children and Brazil ilk.




I don't know how similar one might say it is, but the 1997 flick CUBE does offer a rather unreal experience in a highly unusual escape from the prison scenario.






Eden Log also seems promising in that unreal kind of feeling way





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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ I might if it's a Nineteen-Eighty Whore[ish] story.

And thanks to people for the recs so far.  Much to look for.  Right now I'm in the mood for black comedyish/ really quirky dystopian[ish], or not so dystopian, works.

One of my favourite recent films I've seen that  I really liked was Branded (has a bad rating at imdb).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ5p7l1hNuQ

It's a bit of The how to Get Ahead in Advertising kind of thing.

Another fairly recent favourite of mine was One Point Zero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw3V_VnRoaA

I'd love to find some more films of the Delicatessen, City of Lost Children and Brazil ilk.

 
You might find the new sci-fi television series 'Defiance' interesting....it has some dystopian and even 'steam punk' elements imo.
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^ I might if it's a Nineteen-Eighty Whore[ish] story.

And thanks to people for the recs so far.  Much to look for.  Right now I'm in the mood for black comedyish/ really quirky dystopian[ish], or not so dystopian, works.

One of my favourite recent films I've seen that  I really liked was Branded (has a bad rating at imdb).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ5p7l1hNuQ

It's a bit of The how to Get Ahead in Advertising kind of thing.

Another fairly recent favourite of mine was One Point Zero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw3V_VnRoaA

I'd love to find some more films of the Delicatessen, City of Lost Children and Brazil ilk.








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When I get my dystopia novel up, will any of you read it (or at least write nice things) when I whore myself here?
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Oh, and here's another book that is actually well worth reading, despite the later weirdness of at least one of the authors.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

A very good one.....this was well written and strange.
 


Yeah a very nice read....even if you kind of had the feeling that the dirt and grime kept pouring out from the pages and on to your fingers while reading it.

Apparently inspired by Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast, another novel that probably merits mentioning here.
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I agree on the Gene Wolfe - I rarely, if ever, put down a fantasy novel but that "Shadow of the Torturor" was just mind-numbingly...uninteresting. One of the very few I never bothered to finish.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

^Me too. Definitely want to watch it but need to be in the right frame of mind.


I don't know that there is much dystopian fiction that is more dystopic than most peoples' realities at this point.


Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


Sounds like you have a good handle on the genre but I really liked the Gene Wolfe; Shadow of the Torturer series, Books Of The New Sun....set far in the future.


A good friend of mine (who is incidentally on his death bed at the moment) gave me the first in the series to read. I found it tedious and put it down about halfway through. But that was in my flippant 20's. Might try it again.
 
Give it another try...it takes a while for him to set up the premise and characters....and there are others in the series.


Its funny how a thing that I demand in a movie, character development, wears me out in a book. *sigh* 21st century attention span.
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A very good one.....this was well written and strange.
 
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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

^Me too. Definitely want to watch it but need to be in the right frame of mind.


I don't know that there is much dystopian fiction that is more dystopic than most peoples' realities at this point.


Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


Sounds like you have a good handle on the genre but I really liked the Gene Wolfe; Shadow of the Torturer series, Books Of The New Sun....set far in the future.


A good friend of mine (who is incidentally on his death bed at the moment) gave me the first in the series to read. I found it tedious and put it down about halfway through. But that was in my flippant 20's. Might try it again.
 
Give it another try...it takes a while for him to set up the premise and characters....and there are others in the series.
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edit: I double derped the post....oopsOuch


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^Me too. Definitely want to watch it but need to be in the right frame of mind.


I don't know that there is much dystopian fiction that is more dystopic than most peoples' realities at this point.


Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


Sounds like you have a good handle on the genre but I really liked the Gene Wolfe; Shadow of the Torturer series, Books Of The New Sun....set far in the future.


A good friend of mine (who is incidentally on his death bed at the moment) gave me the first in the series to read. I found it tedious and put it down about halfway through. But that was in my flippant 20's. Might try it again.

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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Thats a good movie , try king of the Devil idland, very cool and BLEAK


Will look for it, thanks.

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Themroc from 1973, a French film made on a low budget with no intelligible dialog, It tells the story of a blue collar worker who rebels against modernity by regressing into an urban troglodyte who demolishes his urban apartment into an improvised cave. The movie's scenes of incest and cannibalism earned it's adults-only ratings. I loved it, but then I'm openly weirdo....


That's one I've been wanting to watch for quite a while.  I had found it on youtube (but lacking English subtitles the unintelligible dialogue seemed even more unintelligible, -- not that they would bother with subtitling gibberish anyway). ;)

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dystopian_films

http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/best-dystopian-science-fiction-books.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystopian_novel#Dystopian_fiction

Sounds like you have a good handle on the genre but I really liked the Gene Wolfe; Shadow of the Torturer series, Books Of The New Sun....set far in the future.
While not 'dystopian' per se the 'Culture' series by Ian Banks is superbly crafted literate sci-fi about a group of AI's  that control the known universe and many of the stories are set in what could be called dystopian planets.


Think I've been through all those lists before.  I will definitely look for those books.  I once borrowed one of those Gene Wolfe's, but didn't get down to it.

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Every read Farnham's Freehold by Heinlein?


It's actually one of the books I borrowed from the library a week ago, and is what I'm reading now.  Its dialogue-heavy style didn't immediately appeal, so I read a couple of others I had taken out first -- including a, I thought good, though a little too prediactable at times and a little too dated, James Blish novel that was somewhat reminiscent to me of a favourite Heinlein book of mine, Stranger in a Strange Land and of A Canticle for Leibowitz due to its religious themes.  The book was A Case of Conscience, but though I liked the writing of A Case..., the story didn't quite work for me, but I digress.

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

If you're okay with watching anime, Texhnolyze is a great series with dystopian/cyber punk/post-apocalyptic themes and is very dark and surreal.< id="bpm-darkle"> < id="bpm-invert"> < id="bpm-darkle"> < id="bpm-invert">


I love anime, and have seen a number of great ones that would fit this topic.  I will look for the series; sounds excellent.

Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

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Couldn't find the regular trailer, so this one with latin subtitles have to do.


I plan to watch Dredd at some time.  I saw the Stallone version when it came out in the movie theatre; I'm sure this one is better.

Originally posted by Evangelion2014 Evangelion2014 wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

If you're okay with watching anime, Texhnolyze is a great series with dystopian/cyber punk/post-apocalyptic themes and is very dark and surreal.< id="bpm-darkle"> < id="bpm-invert"> < id="bpm-darkle"> < id="bpm-invert">


Seconding this. One of the few shows on myanimelist that I have rated as 10/10. The entire series is told in a minimalist tone set in a decaying city that looks like it belongs in the 50's but has bits of advanced technology lying around.

Threads is definitely something you should watch, though only part of it is about post apocalyptic, the rest is how the apocolypse happens. Basically, it was the british version of 'the day after' with all the hollywood touches and any rays of hope scrubbed clean. It looks at the effects of a nuclear bomb on a small english town in the middle of a cold war WWIII. At times a documentary like narrator will describe part of the story. It's up on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCbTvoNrAg


Texhnolyze really does sound excellent.  I know about Threads, and started on it at one time, but perhaps was feeling too depressed at the time to watch it.  It's high on my list for some time.


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Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

If you're okay with watching anime, Texhnolyze is a great series with dystopian/cyber punk/post-apocalyptic themes and is very dark and surreal.< id="bpm-darkle"> < id="bpm-invert"> < id="bpm-darkle"> < id="bpm-invert">


Seconding this. One of the few shows on myanimelist that I have rated as 10/10. The entire series is told in a minimalist tone set in a decaying city that looks like it belongs in the 50's but has bits of advanced technology lying around.

Threads is definitely something you should watch, though only part of it is about post apocalyptic, the rest is how the apocolypse happens. Basically, it was the british version of 'the day after' with all the hollywood touches and any rays of hope scrubbed clean. It looks at the effects of a nuclear bomb on a small english town in the middle of a cold war WWIII. At times a documentary like narrator will describe part of the story. It's up on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCbTvoNrAg




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Couldn't find the regular trailer, so this one with latin subtitles have to do.
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