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progbethyname 
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 Topic: Vangelis' "Blade Runner"Posted: September 12 2013 at 00:21 |
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It was a tough one between Main Titles and Tears in The Rain but I went with Main Titles...
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 12 2013 at 00:18 |
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Yes. There certainly is. 
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jude111
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Posted: August 21 2013 at 21:28 |
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I know an album just for you then: The Caretaker's An Empty Bliss Beyond This World. The entire album is streaming on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL998ajnjN4 The Caretaker is actually Leyland Kirby - he named himself The Caretaker after the bartender ghost in The Shining (novel and film), in the ballroom where the dance never ends. The album has a very similar feel to "One More Kiss, Dear." My favorite track is the first one, "All You Are Going to Want to Do Is Get Back There." Edited by jude111 - August 21 2013 at 21:39 |
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: August 21 2013 at 21:20 |
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Oh, yeah! Song pick! I went with "One More Kiss, Dear" cuz it haunts me and has such a cool 1920's feel to it. (I think I would have really liked the 1920s.) I love all the other songs as well--especially the trumpet work on "Blade Runner's Blues," the synths etc. as Roy's death soliloquy plays, and the piano notes from "Rachel's Theme" Rachel and Deckard play before making love.
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Drew Fisher
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 21:35 |
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Why do they have to make all these dumb sequels. Anyway I went with Love Theme. It's a nice song to listen to when you're having a threesome with your dogs. Just kidding
 having sex with your wife after you've had a big fight because you did something really dumb like Ralph Kramden would do.
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verslibre
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 20:51 |
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It will not be easy to, er, replicate the atmo of the film for a sequel. Ridley will direct, but it absolutely needs Vangelis' music again or someone who can create a similarly evocative score without riding its coattails, as with Daft Punk's music for Tron Legacy. Of course, it needs a quality story and script. K.W. Jeter (PKD's protégé) wrote a direct sequel to the film, literally titled Blade Runner 2, in the '90s. I didn't read it, but I recall it was well-received. I don't think they intend to adapt it, though.
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 16:49 |
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I thought it's pretty well accepted that (at least, according to Ridley Scott) Deckard, too, is a replicant (he just doesn't know it). But I agree, the Roy character is, for me, the central and most memorable character in the film. In fact, Rutger Hauer's Roy is probably my favorite character from any movie--and the "Tears in the Rain" scene the most powerful scene I've ever been witness to. I say, Let it lie. There's no need for prequels, sequels, or remakes. Heck, there are enough "alternate versions" to keep one busy for the rest of our lives.
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Drew Fisher
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moshkito
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:02 |
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I think they were looking at a sort of prequel to the main film ... but the film without Roy, and his group and total individuality ... is not likely to stand up, and be nothing but a copy of the whole thing.
Could be interesting if they look at the early days of the replicants, and find that the ones that didn't work were the odd ones where something like a wire went wrong, and it became ... the Darryl Hannah character, for example ... or the other wire went broke, and it became Roy ... or the like, but even that is a bit too strange and creating a whole world around that, might be next to impossible.
The "after" of the film would be very tough ... the likelihood, is that he ages, and Rachel doesn't ... and this creates an interesting dilemma ... she will become a Melmoth the wonderer ... she can not love, because they will all die! And there are no replicants that were succeesful that would make sense for her to get involved with. And does she have emotions? How can she "love" and appreciate the man that fell in love with her?
As long as it doesn't become a crappy Hollywood love story ... I might see it!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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verslibre
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 15:14 |
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I enjoyed Proyas' The Crow and Dark City a lot but I felt I, Robot was forgettable fare. |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 11:32 |
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But hey, that's just me.
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jude111
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 10:58 |
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I agree. I quite like the film, but it misses masterpiece status. The director followed Dark City with the film I Robot, which I strongly disliked at first but have come to like over the years the more I thought about it. For example, one reason I didn't like it at first (and it got a lot of criticism over this) was the product placement in the film: Converse shoes, Audi car, etc. But then I began to realize: all these products are destroyed in the film: the shoes become covered in blood and are ruined; the car gets rubbished; Will Smith's character grabs the FedEx robot by the face and pushes him away, etc. It goes to the heart of the film: it's the corporation and its slimy CEO that's unleashed the robots, etc etc. The director was clearly riffing on Blade Runner: a cop is the hero, there's a CEO who sits at the top of his empire perched over the city; Deckard may or may not be human, while Will Smith is half-robot...
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octopus-4
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 10:49 |
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Dark City could have been a great movie if only they omitted explaining everything in the first minutes
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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jude111
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 10:47 |
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Yes, it's a theme mined in cyberpunk and postmodern scifi as well (of which Blade Runner was a pioneer, along with precursors like Chris Marker's La jetee and Godard's Alphaville). In post-Blade Runner films like Dark City (and the director's follow-up, the under-rated I Robot), The Matrix, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Truman Show, and Vanilla Sky (as well as the remake of Marker's film, 12 Monkeys), characters are unsure of their own identity and what's real. When I first heard that there was to be a re-make of Total Recall, I was desperately hoping that it would be set in the Blade Runner world (which after all made frequent mention of 'off-world colonies'). Alas they blew it...
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octopus-4
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 08:57 |
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Deckard suspects to be a replicant, Douglas Quaid thinks to have dreamed of Mars, and nobody knows if Palmer Eldritch is a dream or not. Being unable of recognize reality from dreams is the typical theme of every Dick's novel.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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jude111
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 07:58 |
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I agree with Guitar Noir in that, if there's to be a sequel, I hope it's about other characters within that world, rather than Deckard and Rachel's story... I don't want to know where they've gone or how they're getting on; it's best left to the imagination. Is Deckard a replicant? Best left a mystery, which deepens the film. So much that's special about Blade Runner is its retro-futurism and film noir character (reflected in Vangelis's score as well) - the seeming perpetual night, the urban seediness, the constant rainfall, not to mention the tropes of the world-weary cop and the femme fatale... If the textures and mood can be re-created, and we can follow completely new characters in this same place - wow, that would be so cool. Especially if they can get the music right. If the narrative can somehow intersect with the original in some way that's surprising without feeling contrived, that's even better. Perhaps a totally different Philip K. Dick short story can be set in the Blade Runner universe. I'm reminded of how Robert Altman took a dozen different Raymond Carver short stories and weaved them into his great film Short Cuts. If it's done right, it could be great. But so rarely are things done right. Has there ever been a case where a director revisited one of his classic works and it was anything other than mediocre? Coppola's Godfather III should never have been made; ditto Scott's Alien prequel Prometheus. Lucas's Star Wars prequels were utterly awful. Edited by jude111 - June 28 2013 at 08:29 |
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richardh
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 02:41 |
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I suppose there is the question to resolve of whether Deckard is a replicant or not. The little paper unicorn was meant to tell him this I've always presumed?
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Guitar Noir
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 11:31 |
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"Sometimes the afterglow isn't enough and we have to move on." Steve Hackett
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richardh
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 01:00 |
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may well be true
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jude111
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 15:21 |
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Same here. Prometheus should have never been made - I'd rather watch Aliens Vs Predator 2 then watch Prometheus again. And I think at least 50 percent of the magic of Blade Runner is Vangelis' score, which I don't believe he or anyone else can re-produce. |
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richardh
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 14:37 |
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at least Ridley Scott is directing but after Prometheus which was very average (I think), I would still rather he didn't.
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<span style="line-height: 1.2;">, but the 3rd disc is largely new music by Vangelis, and it's not really close to the Blade Runner sound. The 2nd disc is largely very mellow, most of it incidental music. What's missing (besides some great tracks) are some of the cool sound effects from the film, like that blimp with the Japanese woman, and that advert that goes something like, "</span>A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies, the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure..."