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Guldbamsen
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Topic: Multi-Part Suites Spread Out Over Multiple Albums Posted: March 08 2013 at 09:47 |
sagichim wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
During the 70s Grobschnitt's Solar Music underwent constant changes and it continued to evolve as a track. Started as a mere jam, but when you the versions from their first recordings to the one on the Live album, you do hear how far they took the idea.
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Is the hair for real?
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Yes it was at the time... Now I have something of a Hiawatha mohawk with long curly hair in the middle...
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Sagichim
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 17:32 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
During the 70s Grobschnitt's Solar Music underwent constant changes and it continued to evolve as a track. Started as a mere jam, but when you the versions from their first recordings to the one on the Live album, you do hear how far they took the idea.
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Yep!! Is the hair for real?
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 11:07 |
During the 70s Grobschnitt's Solar Music underwent constant changes and it continued to evolve as a track. Started as a mere jam, but when you the versions from their first recordings to the one on the Live album, you do hear how far they took the idea.
Edited by Guldbamsen - March 07 2013 at 11:07
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The Doctor
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 09:10 |
Rush's Fear comes to mind. As does Cygnus X-I.
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 05:01 |
Taurus 1-3 by Mike Oldfield.. Good stuff
Then there's Thoughts by Spock's Beard and Neal Morse, though it's hard to say yet how strongly they're connected (I haven't heard "Afterthoughts" from the new SB album yet and the fate of the fourth part is still unknown)
Cliffhanger (two parts) by Shadow Gallery
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Sagichim
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 09:37 |
I really like when that happens. It's like the concept is there but the band keeps evolving and changing so it's cool to see how they would approach that concept again.
Another very good example is Primus - The Fisherman Chronicles.
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 08:29 |
Saga had a long break between the chapters during their "difficult" period. They continued the story with Full Circle, which was very much an attempt to realign their sound with their early 80's albums.
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 23:47 |
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Isn't that how Coheed and Cambria's first three albums are laid out? Or is it ongoing? |
Coheed generally have full album concepts that take place in the same canon with often the same characters. I think we're more talking of individual songs here than full albums though.
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verslibre
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 23:41 |
Isn't that how Coheed and Cambria's first three albums are laid out? Or is it ongoing?
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 21:22 |
Epica have done a couple of longer ones over the years, and "The Embrace that Smothers" even went over multiple bands. It's an interesting idea, but I think often concepts of that scale limit the music, as in you're writing it to fit the lyrics as opposed to actually just writing good music. Dream Theater are a huge culprit of that.
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Master of Time
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 20:44 |
Kati wrote:
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Multi-part suites spread out over multiple albums aren't terribly common, but they're interesting to me. Examples of these are Rush's Cygnus X-1 Duology, Rush's Fear Series (Kind of), and Dream Theater's Twelve Step Suite. How do you feel about this format? Do you like it? Do you find it annoying? What are some ones that you like or that I missed? |
Hello Master of Time
Ok this is a bit off topic but your name
reminds me of my favorite Big Big Train track from far skies deep time I love that track
Anyway nice to meet you and
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That track is actually a cover of the Anthony Phillip's song which I got my name from. The track is just a demo from his debut, but it made a massive impression on me when I first heard it, and it is the track that led me down the rabbit hole to PA.
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Kati
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 20:39 |
Master of Time wrote:
Multi-part suites spread out over multiple albums aren't terribly common, but they're interesting to me. Examples of these are Rush's Cygnus X-1 Duology, Rush's Fear Series (Kind of), and Dream Theater's Twelve Step Suite. How do you feel about this format? Do you like it? Do you find it annoying? What are some ones that you like or that I missed? |
Hello Master of Time
Ok this is a bit off topic but your name
reminds me of my favorite Big Big Train track from far skies deep time I love that track
Anyway nice to meet you and
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Thandrus
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 17:53 |
Arena's "Crying For Help" interludes come to mind but they were collected then on one album eventually.
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rushfan4
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 17:50 |
Also, FraKctured.
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 17:47 |
The Larks' Tongues in Aspic series had a pretty good run.
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 17:41 |
I think it's a cool thing to do so you can experiment a little more with some themes from previous albums, but it can become a little of a limitation for the originality of a new album. I felt that way with the last Twelve Step Suite, but I did really loved it listening separately from the CD and putting all the songs in order. There's when it really shines.
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 17:18 |
Focus 1-10 - an incredibly good series.
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rushfan4
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 17:06 |
The first one that comes to mind for me is Saga's Chapters series, which is 16 songs over a number of albums, but not in order.
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Master of Time
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Posted: February 27 2013 at 17:00 |
Multi-part suites spread out over multiple albums aren't terribly common, but they're interesting to me. Examples of these are Rush's Cygnus X-1 Duology, Rush's Fear Series (Kind of), and Dream Theater's Twelve Step Suite. How do you feel about this format? Do you like it? Do you find it annoying? What are some ones that you like or that I missed?
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