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Sumdeus
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 23 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Status: Offline Points: 831 |
Topic: Close To The Edge or Red? Posted: February 15 2013 at 04:51 |
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you should really try out some krautrock, progmetaller! great genre with so many fantastic bands
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Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10261 |
Posted: February 15 2013 at 03:22 | ||||||
"Tanz der Lemminge" is from 1971. If you are curious about that track go here:
That was only an example, by the way; I could have mentioned many other tracks by other artists. How about "Vergegenwärtigung" by Popol Vuh (1976)? Go to the 19:40 mark for that track; it ends at 36:27. Or "Atem" by Tangerine Dream (1973)? Edited by BaldFriede - February 15 2013 at 04:07 |
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ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3145 |
Posted: February 15 2013 at 02:28 | ||||||
I'm not really familiar with Krautrock to be honest but I'll take a listen, I just don't like Moonchild.Can I ask what year these tracks were made? |
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10261 |
Posted: February 15 2013 at 01:24 | ||||||
I take it you don't like much early Krautrock either because there are often passages or sometimes whole tracks in it which are quite similar to "Moonchild". Example: "The Marilyn Monroe Memorial Church" from "Tanz der Lemminge" by Amon Düül 2. |
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
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HackettFan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: February 14 2013 at 21:10 | ||||||
Red
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ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3145 |
Posted: February 14 2013 at 18:41 | ||||||
'I do remember Giles drumming, it took hours and hours by the time I was done with it, I was so involved I didn't know what to think I listened to it for days and days playing little games like not listening to it for a whole day and then listening to it to see if I still dislike it, I DID!!! the more I listen to it, the more I dislike it. I do think it's bad that fact is, no matter how closely I studied it, no matter how I take it apart, no matter how I'll break it down i t remains consistent, I wish you were here to HEAR IT!! On a serious note, to see what is the deal there?really that's why I listened to it that much I can honestly say that Michael's playing is the only interesting thing about it Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 18:42 |
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 18:23 | ||||||
Why did you bother listening to it that much if you find it so boring? |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:36 | ||||||
yeah, you hit it right on the nail there, I've heard it about a million times and it's Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:37 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10261 |
Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:35 | ||||||
I love Moonchild, and all of it. Anyone who thinks the instrumental section is pointless noodling or boring has not really been listening to it. Every line of the lyrics is expressed in that instrumental part. Just one example: "Playing hide and seek with the ghosts of dawn" from 9:41 to 10:19. Now go and spot the other lines. |
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ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3145 |
Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:27 | ||||||
I agree |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Earthmover
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:26 | ||||||
I know I didn't. Maybe ludicrous, but still an opinion, and still as valid as anyone else's opinion.
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Melomaniac
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4088 |
Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:24 | ||||||
Love both albums, obviously, but Starless is one of my all-time favorite prog epics, and I just love the rest of the songs on it (well, Providence a bit less). So Red it is.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:24 | ||||||
you didn't break anything it's just a ludicrous opinion |
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Earthmover
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:22 | ||||||
Pure quality-wise, it cannot. But I don't care for objective quality when I'm listening to music. I'm sorry if I broke some sacred rule not to compare Providence to CttE tracks, but I can't help it.
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ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3145 |
Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:15 | ||||||
nobody loves Moonchild |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:14 | ||||||
^ ... and as I much as I like "Providence", there's no way it could perform as a giant-slayer to all three tracks.
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Horizons
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:05 | ||||||
Ballsy. Very... ballsy.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:04 | ||||||
it sure is a monster Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:06 |
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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lazland
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 11:07 | ||||||
It is a difficult poll. I love Red, but I do think that Providence is about the weakest of the KC improv pieces (I love Moonchild). CTTE is nigh on perfect, so that gets the vote.
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
Posted: February 14 2013 at 10:18 | ||||||
A really hard poll but I have to vote for CTTE.
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