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Codera the Great 
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 Topic: the Avengers (the four with superpowers)
Posted: July 02 2012 at 03:15 |
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I normally don't take Superhero movies all that seriously, but I always thought Robert Downey Jr. was a boss. Iron Man for me personally.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:55 |
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seriously, the film looks like a big pile of doo-doo
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:51 |
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^ Nonetheless he is still on the poll. Let's just go with it. It doesn't say anything about being an original member.
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dwill123
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:12 |
 Dayvenkirq wrote:
dwill123 wrote:
Dean wrote:
Captain America doesn't have super powers either - he is enhanced (by drugs) to the peak of human capability. |
He's also not an original member of the Avengers. |
He has to be an original member?
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Textbook
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 00:17 |
Some people are grumbling about how Antman and Wasp got dropped in favour of Hawkeye and Black Widow. (The original Avengers line up was Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, Antman and Wasp. Cap went in and Hulk went out in #4.) But it makes complete sense from a writing and marketing perspective. There simply isn't the interest to justify an Antman movie and even just popping him into the Avengers, people don't care. Plus he's hard to write for because you keep having to come up with special situations that need someone to be small. Perhaps if they'd fast-forwarded him to his Giantman days he might've fit in.... However, if Avengers movies keep coming, they'll have to include Hank Pym eventually... I wanna see Ultron (who Antman, Hank Pym, accidentally creates) as a villain too....
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: April 29 2012 at 18:31 |
dwill123 wrote:
Dean wrote:
Captain America doesn't have super powers either - he is enhanced (by drugs) to the peak of human capability. |
He's also not an original member of the Avengers. |
He has to be an original member?
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Iron Man is most appealing due to Downey Jrs fun characteristics.
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Yuppity-up  .
Edited by Dayvenkirq - April 29 2012 at 18:32
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: April 29 2012 at 18:27 |
Iron Man is most appealing due to Downey Jrs fun characteristics. Thor is certainly one of the best movies of the lot. Avengers movie is awesome.
Best Marvel movies Top 5
1 The Avengers 2 Iron Man 2 3 Thor 4 Iron Man 5 Incredible Hulk
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dwill123
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Posted: April 29 2012 at 11:18 |
Dean wrote:
Captain America doesn't have super powers either - he is enhanced (by drugs) to the peak of human capability. |
He's also not an original member of the Avengers.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 27 2012 at 20:05 |
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Aquaman 4ever.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: April 27 2012 at 19:30 |
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I've always though Iron Man was awesome because I have robophilia or something. That being said, I've never kept up with any kind of comic books or cartoon/live action film adaptations.
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The Truth
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Posted: April 27 2012 at 16:16 |
Atavachron wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Hawkeye because he reminds me of Green Arrow.
DC for days.
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I'm sorry, DC is ... ? |
as Dean pointed out, it's 'Detective Comics' ; Batman was originally a privateering detective, if a flamboyant one.
Okay-- technically Supes has superpowers but I always felt they were only "super" relative to his Kryptonian status:
he was far denser and stronger than earthmen but only because he was
born to a denser race that'd evolved under harsher
conditions. He was never intended to literally
fly. He would leap, not fly, as made clear by the
Max Fleisher animated shorts of the early 1940s (a must see for any
comix fan) which fits with him as a super man, but nothing
more. It was later that he began to become airborne and
acquired 'x-ray vision'. Jerry Siegel says of John Carter,
an early Superman influence, "Carter was able to leap great distances
because the planet Mars was smaller that the planet Earth; and he had
great strength" .
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I really hate Superman though.  Batman & the Bat Family, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Flash, Blue Beetle and... I'm sure I'm missing someone... But yeah, the whole "super" thing never really appealed to me, there's not enough human connection.
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Barbu
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Posted: April 26 2012 at 22:19 |
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As a kid : Thor. Without a doubt.
Not sure i'll watch the Avengers though as i disliked both Captain America and Thor movies.
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 26 2012 at 21:55 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Hawkeye because he reminds me of Green Arrow.
DC for days.
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I'm sorry, DC is ... ? |
as Dean pointed out, it's 'Detective Comics' ; Batman was originally a privateering detective, if a flamboyant one. Okay-- technically Supes has superpowers but I always felt they were only "super" relative to his Kryptonian status :
he was far denser and stronger than earthmen but only because he was
born to a denser race that'd evolved under harsher
conditions. He was never intended to literally
fly. He would leap, not fly, as made clear by the
Max Fleisher animated shorts of the early 1940s (a must see for any
comix fan) which fits with him as a super man, but nothing
more. It was later that he began to become airborne and
acquired 'x-ray vision'. Jerry Siegel says of John Carter,
an early Superman influence, "Carter was able to leap great distances
because the planet Mars was smaller that the planet Earth; and he had
great strength" .
Edited by Atavachron - April 26 2012 at 22:21
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Posted: April 26 2012 at 18:07 |
Me   okay, perhaps not...
Detective Comics Inc. home of the DC Universe, populated by the Justice League of 'merica, Superman, Supergirl, Superdog, Superboy, Supernova, Superglue, Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, Swampthing, The Spirit, Spectre, (other things begining with "S"), The Atom, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel etc. etc. etc... oh, yeah, and Batman, Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, Batwoman, Batanball... etc
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What?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: April 26 2012 at 15:42 |
The Truth wrote:
Hawkeye because he reminds me of Green Arrow.
DC for days.
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I'm sorry, DC is ... ?
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The Truth
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 20:40 |
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Hawkeye because he reminds me of Green Arrow.
DC for days.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 19:59 |
manofmystery wrote:
I don't care if she was excluded, this is where my vote goes:
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Okay, my second, secret vote goes to her. 
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 19:54 |
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Thor is awesome. I'm looking forward to this movie very much. Last year's Thor wasn't that good (imo), so hopefully this will make up for it.
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Dean
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 08:59 |
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^ Batman was a "normal" too, but he used his wits and cunning rather than condoning steroid abuse... okay, I know, Batman was Justice League not an Avenger, just sayin'.
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What?
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Flyingsod
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 08:44 |
Dean wrote:
Captain America doesn't have super powers either - he is enhanced (by drugs) to the peak of human capability. |
I thought I was gonna have to mention this. It is after all why he is the best superhero, no superpowers but the best that a human can be. He is us. On the shield issue... I don't know the movie lore at all but in comic book cannon it is made of Adamantium Plus. It's the strongest metal known and the recipe was lost. It get's destroyed periodically by extreme circumstances though. Thor crushed it once. In any case human powered Cap America probably couldn't throw it hard enough to slice up Starks robot armour suit.
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