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    Posted: July 02 2012 at 03:30
Hey Tyranny!
Myriad are from Brisbane, very melodic PTree style guitar solos, but quite a strong emphasise on beautiful warm acoustic guitar playing too. Very good band!
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Kettlespider are worth a listen. Kinda traditional 'bombastic' heavy guitar instrumental Prog but cos they're young un's, they can't help but have a smidgen of Mogwai, Radiohead and Miriodor about them.

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=778785
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Only the first album by Blackfeather with John Robinson on guitar- Seasons of Change is Prog imo- at the time(early 70's) it was hard to believe they were an Aussie band.
 
yeah forgot about Sebastian Hardie who became Windchase and then becamee SH again.
Where were Myriad from?
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Don't hear a whole lot of progginess in Blackfeather. 
New album!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385
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Tyranny!

You should definately consider checking out the two Myriad releases, and Ben Craven's recent album `Great and Terrible Potions'! Looks wonderful on vinyl that one, too!

Now that I think about it, the recent comeback album from Sebastian Hardie, which I think is called `Blueprint' (I'm at work, and I just noticed I never copied the CD across onto my Ipod, so I can't double check the name of it!), is also very melodic and of a high quality!

Oh, yeah, and that first Split Enz album is freaking, urh, mental as well! Sounds a hell of a lot like Gabriel's Genesis in many parts, too!

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For anyone curious about early Australian Prog- one of the first bands that had Prog elements was Blackfeather with their album "At the Mountains of Madness"- also the first Split Enz  (NZ) album "Mental Notes" is definitely Prog.
 
Personally I wouldnt call Ayers Rock Prog- simply jazz/rock
 
But there are many relatively unknown Prog bands in Australia doing great things. I agrree with Smurff- A Lonely Crowd is definitely amongst the best.
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Hey Irrelevant!

I had no idea that Ayers Rock band was a prog band! I've come across that album once in a while and dismissed it, thinking it was straight-forward commercial rock!


'Tis some really good Jazz Rock/Fusion. Recommended! 
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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385
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A Lonely Crowd is my fav Austrailian prog group horray
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

that's what happens when you dismiss new music, or new "sounds", entirely :)
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Don't get me wrong, I can find the good...but I really have to try.

Oh well, another discussion finishing on the 'subjective' note...
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People don't lose abilities that they never had. Advancements are usually welcome in society, for better or for worse. In art, of course, good is subjective. And with that, comes the fact that preserving the good stuff just because it's good, doesn't make it particularly interesting. It has to move on, and what you're referring to as "accepting unnecessary changes", I refer to as seeing change and understanding it before we can assess whether it's good or bad. I always find the good eventually.
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Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

 
I don't really think that it can ever go back to what it used to be, and I'm really happy it can't, and somewhat shamefully I will admit that I'm happy that many of the traditional sounding bands fail to re-create the magic of the old bands. Why beat a dead horse? I don't mind listening to the dead horse, he has lots of good stuff from when he was alive. But now he's dead. So maybe we should push to different directions?

It's easy to have the attitude that as culture moves on things become new, exciting and happen for a reason. But as I look at how things were and how things are, I can see that this is not true. I don't think I could be less excited about where music or any culture is heading. People have lost the ability to preserve what is good and have begun to accept unnecessary changes.
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Originally posted by sarge sarge wrote:

 

Of course, bands often put into those sub-genres can sound traditional, however that's not my point. Many of the bands in those sub-genres do fit their label and I will not hesitate to dismiss them in my endeavours because:

1) Progressive elements that have been implemented into modern music is not my idea of prog rock
2) Most of those sub-genres tend to have a scene of their own already, whereas my idea of traditional prog is left to a few small circles of old purists it seems...

By 'traditional prog' I refer to the sound created by the greats (Pink Floyd, Genesis, PFM, ELP, King Crimson, Nektar, Camel...etc) as well as by the some of the more obscure bands of the time (VDGG, Gryphon, Spyrogyra, Gong...). 

And sure, some new bands may proclaim to take great influence from these bands but for some reason it's never quite produces that familiar feeling as with traditional prog. Whether its the lyrics or the production or the fashions or the live shows or the music itself...something is always missing.

I can honestly say that it's not just because of the time period we live in because that is such crap.
If 'traditional prog' resonates with your lifestyle (for me that's the simple farm life) and you can play an instrument with ease then there should be nothing stopping you from creating that feeling that bands once made.

Sure, the development of the music is cool and whatever...but where prog has gone is not for me (or my close group of friends) and hopefully for other people out there who wish to create a scene for enthusiasts and musicians.

I don't really think that it can ever go back to what it used to be, and I'm really happy it can't, and somewhat shamefully I will admit that I'm happy that many of the traditional sounding bands fail to re-create the magic of the old bands. Why beat a dead horse? I don't mind listening to the dead horse, he has lots of good stuff from when he was alive. But now he's dead. So maybe we should push to different directions?
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Originally posted by sarge sarge wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Feel ashamed that I'm Australian after reading the OP. Lame? Oh dear.
Dimissing a host of sub-genres as part of your recruitment drive seems a lowly move sure to encourage thoughtful, open-minded members.

I feel ashamed that I'm Australian when I see how rude and unattractive most Australians are when I'm forced to walk through the city.

My 'recruitment drive' is to attract people that are open minded and passionate but feel that the current scene is not for them and have greater appeal to the way prog used to look and sound. I really don't think that's so far-fetched, it's just a bit wishful...apparently.


I still I don't feel that 'open-minded' equates directly to what you've said you're looking for, but you phrase what you're after far less offensively here in your reply than in your opening post.

Hopefully you can get the folks you're after, just take it easy on the instant dismissal stuff I guess.
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Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

 
Well no it really didn't have anything to do with the Australian prog scene. It had more to do with the fact that you just went ahead and dismissed entire sub-genres, which is silly, because sub-genres in their essence, are inaccurate and unnecessarily categorize things. Post-rock, metal, can also sound traditional. 

Of course, bands often put into those sub-genres can sound traditional, however that's not my point. Many of the bands in those sub-genres do fit their label and I will not hesitate to dismiss them in my endeavours because:

1) Progressive elements that have been implemented into modern music is not my idea of prog rock
2) Most of those sub-genres tend to have a scene of their own already, whereas my idea of traditional prog is left to a few small circles of old purists it seems...

By 'traditional prog' I refer to the sound created by the greats (Pink Floyd, Genesis, PFM, ELP, King Crimson, Nektar, Camel...etc) as well as by the some of the more obscure bands of the time (VDGG, Gryphon, Spyrogyra, Gong...). 

And sure, some new bands may proclaim to take great influence from these bands but for some reason it's never quite produces that familiar feeling as with traditional prog. Whether its the lyrics or the production or the fashions or the live shows or the music itself...something is always missing.

I can honestly say that it's not just because of the time period we live in because that is such crap.
If 'traditional prog' resonates with your lifestyle (for me that's the simple farm life) and you can play an instrument with ease then there should be nothing stopping you from creating that feeling that bands once made.

Sure, the development of the music is cool and whatever...but where prog has gone is not for me (or my close group of friends) and hopefully for other people out there who wish to create a scene for enthusiasts and musicians.
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2012 at 00:58
Originally posted by sarge sarge wrote:

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

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Why do you write "should"- are you the ultimate authority on what's prog, and what it should sound like?

And you're literally saying nothing when you accuse entire sub-genres as not how prog should sound. 

And come to the think about it, I know no Australian bands.


The post has nothing to do with the Australian prog music scene. 

Its about creating a prog scene in Australia by promoting NEW bands and events that are progressive rock in the more 'traditional' sense.

Maybe 'should' was a poor choice...but I feel that for prog to get back on track (and again, this is in MY vision) some of us need to be a bit elitist. 

Well no it really didn't have anything to do with the Australian prog scene. It had more to do with the fact that you just went ahead and dismissed entire sub-genres, which is silly, because sub-genres in their essence, are inaccurate and unnecessarily categorize things. Post-rock, metal, can also sound traditional. 
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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Feel ashamed that I'm Australian after reading the OP. Lame? Oh dear.
Dimissing a host of sub-genres as part of your recruitment drive seems a lowly move sure to encourage thoughtful, open-minded members.

I feel ashamed that I'm Australian when I see how rude and unattractive most Australians are when I'm forced to walk through the city.

My 'recruitment drive' is to attract people that are open minded and passionate but feel that the current scene is not for them and have greater appeal to the way prog used to look and sound. I really don't think that's so far-fetched, it's just a bit wishful...apparently.


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Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

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Why do you write "should"- are you the ultimate authority on what's prog, and what it should sound like?

And you're literally saying nothing when you accuse entire sub-genres as not how prog should sound. 

And come to the think about it, I know no Australian bands.


The post has nothing to do with the Australian prog music scene. 

Its about creating a prog scene in Australia by promoting NEW bands and events that are progressive rock in the more 'traditional' sense.

Maybe 'should' was a poor choice...but I feel that for prog to get back on track (and again, this is in MY vision) some of us need to be a bit elitist. 
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Points: 7951 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2012 at 16:21
Hey Quirky Turkey!

Anubis played at the Unitopia show in September as well, but for some strange reason they went on stage at 7pm!! I mean, I think most people wouldn't have even got to the show by that stage. My friend and I got there at 8:30pm, assuming they would play right before Unitopia. Disappointed to not see them.

I've briefly heard their most recent album, and it sounded quite promising :)
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What about Anubis? Also I'm seeing Yes at the Palais. Can't wait! 
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