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    Posted: July 30 2005 at 03:04
I am a fan of Queen, however I not consider them a 'prog band.'

The excellent vocal harmonies, use of instruments and their virtuosity
almost gives them a wild card, but they do not have what other prog
bands have when it comes to making different a special music.

I can say the same for Deep Purple, which I am an even greater fan of,
however I cannot put them alongside Genesis, Yes or Van Der Graaf
Generator.

Seeing as there has already been considerable work in finding cover art,
etc. I do not have a problem with them being accepted, but perhaps a
new subset style of prog rock could be created for these less progressive,
and perhaps influential artists?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2005 at 10:08

I've begon submitting the Queen albums, if anyone care to check if my input is accurate.

I mostly use the hollywood records re-releases from 1991, so including the bonus tracks, maybe I shouldn't, but most of the albums I have are including the bonus tracks.

Cert, or Proglover is anyone of you busy writing a bio, else I will

just my luck probably, when i'm done entering the albums, M@X will delete Queen from the archives, rendering all my efforts useless, anyway will continue on the chosen path

 

after this, will proceed with elton John, just so you know



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2005 at 07:30
You can't  (for now until I work this out) , just send it to me and i'll update it ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2005 at 06:55

Originally posted by Proglover Proglover wrote:

Someone please take this for me.....I dont have the time right now to write the history and such....I sent a little bit of information but I know they want more and they seem kinda impatient about it....so, ummm.....please......... I'm going to be away for the whole weekend...so please help me out guys....thanks so much

I don't seem to have the ability to edit the history - but I'll gladly take it on if I get the necessary permissions - or am I just having a blond moment?? M@X???

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2005 at 21:54

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I may give it a go if no one else bothers!

Hey don't fly beneath my wings, I'm giving it time to sink in, but if you really want to, be fast, be accurate and be good

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2005 at 18:18
I may give it a go if no one else bothers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2005 at 17:17
Someone please take this for me.....I dont have the time right now to write the history and such....I sent a little bit of information but I know they want more and they seem kinda impatient about it....so, ummm.....please......... I'm going to be away for the whole weekend...so please help me out guys....thanks so much
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2005 at 17:02
Hint, what hint?ConfusedLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2005 at 12:53
Keep posting it Max, until someone gets the hint!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2005 at 12:21

if someone want to add QUEEN, we are opened mind on this one

 

Use this : http://www.progarchives.com/submitband.asp

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2005 at 00:11
I also think queen must be included, allmost every progressive page on internet include queen un the band list.

Queen is somethimes proggy in some albums and other bands are not proggy in some albums. That's not the same thing.
Jethro Tull have prog jewels but i think they are less proggy than Queen, ELP are not always prog in they history, camel also not prog in the 80s...
Lots prog bands stop doing prog albums sometimes along their carrer.

So why not???!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2005 at 14:46
Is there any chance that Queen could be added here ? Its definitely ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 03:10

Mad The Swine

Been here before a long time ago
But this time I wear no sandals
Ages past I gave all you people
Food and water

Three feet tall so very small I'm no trouble
I bring thunder lightning sun and the rain
For all the people in the land

A message of love
I bring you from up above
All good children gather around
Come join your hands and sing along

They call me mad the swine
I guess I'm mad the swine
I've come to save you save you
Mad the swine
Mad the swine
So all you people gather around
Hold out your hands and praise the Lord

I woke up on the water just as before
I'll help the meek and the mild and believers and the blind
And all the creatures great and small
Let me take you to the river without a ford
Oh and then one day you realise
You're all the same we've been in life
All I've come to say just like before

They call me mad the swine
I'm mad the swine
I've come to save you save you
Mad the swine
Mad the swine
So all you people gather around
Hold out your hands and praise the Lord
Ooh

Oh now
So all you people gather around
Hold out your hands and praise the Lord
Don't ever fail me

Mad the swine
Mad the swine
I've come to save you save you
Oh now
Mad the swine
Mad the swine
So all you people gather around
Hold out your hands and praise the Lord
Hands and praise the Lord
Praise the Lord
I'll get down on my knees and praise the Lord

(Freddie Mercury/Smile)

(From Queen in Nuce - material that the band recorded as Smile before they released their 1st album as Queen).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 02:07

Fool always jumpin' never happy where you land
Fool got my bus'ness make your living where you can
Hurry down the highway
Hurry down the road
Hurry past the people starin'
Hurry hurry hurry hurry

Leave on time leave on time
Never got your ticket but you leave on time
Leave on time leave on time
Gonna get your ticket but you leave on time
Leave on time leave on time
Put it in your pocket but you never can tell

Leave on time leave on time
Shake that rattle gotta leave on time
Leave on time leave on time
Fight your battle but you leave on time
Leave on time leave on time
Never got a minute no you never got a minute
no you never never got oh no matter

Fool got no bus'ness hangin' round and tellin' lies
Fool you got no reasons but you got no compromise
Stampin' on the ceilin' hammering on the walls
Gotta get out gotta get out gotta get
Oh you know I'm goin' crazy

Leave on time leave on time
Gotta get ahead but you leave on time
Leave on time leave on time
Gotta head on ahead but you leave on time
Leave on time leave on time
You're runnin' in the red but you never can tell

Honey honey where's my money where's my money
Wanna get away wanna get away
Leave ya leave ya leave ya

Leave on time leave on time
Gotta get rich gonna leave on time
Leave on time leave on time
But you can't take it with you when you leave on time

Leave on time leave on time
Got to keep yourself alive gotta leave on time
Gotta leave on time leave on time
Dead on time
'You're Dead'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2005 at 21:24
Originally posted by Proglover Proglover wrote:

I must say, that I feel that Queen is an example of a band that is a victim of it's own commercial success. Let the truth be told, with the exception of Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen's BEST work, no one ever heard on a mass level, because those particular songs WERE NOT COMMERCIAL.....while other songs such as 'We Will Rock You', and I dare say "We Are The Champions' were poster songs for the band, and those songs certainly did not represent Queen's best work.

And once again let me state for the record, and truly without any regard to other's opinions (because I feel so strongly about this), it to downright DUMB to keep Queen away from this site because of the media attention they received, or their commercial success....ummm, or ANY OTHER reason that people are NOT saying.....and I think you get my drift. Based on some of the criteria that you guys are giving as to why Queen should not be on this site, I think in doing so you could also strike half of your progressive rock heros from this site as well.

AND FOR THE LAST TIME PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREDDIE MERCURY AND PETER GABRIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........two great front men, I certainly see the similarities...does anyone else?



at last someone who has same opinion. I think these two are the best frontmen ever. Iam a huge fan of Queen and Genesis. And I cant still find anything between them (if they have ever met each other - FM and PG, if they have ever said something etc. etc., but i cant find that :(((

Anyway, i consider Queen´s stuff from the beginning till the Opera as pure prog rock. This site has a lot of bands which are even less progressive. Apparanetly webmaster, or "team prog archives" hate Queen. (they are pure prog 73-75). But they can chose Supertramp (only crime of the century is maybe progressive). how ridiculous is that...........but anyway the best prog site ever on the internet.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2005 at 12:59
Listening to Sheer Heart Attack right now. Definitely art rock in my book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2005 at 18:46
Originally posted by Proglover Proglover wrote:

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

I'm a huge QUEEN fan. Saw them three times in the 70's, before they went too far to the left.

The first four have progability and should be here. I still support a "PROG ALBUMS BY NON-PROG BANDS" section of the archive.

LED ZEPPELIN have a couple of PROG albums and those discs should be here.

It's not about "all or none" just the proggy stuff.

THANK YOU!!!!!! ...........You are the only person to see my view of things......Thank God that I'm not in a world alone. May the heavens be praised!! I think you also make an excellent point.....this is somewhat the danger in catogorizing and labeling and excluding......I believe that music is music, but I feel that we run into trouble when we draw lines in the sand, and to an extent become elitist...like our classical and jazz brothers and sisters. I would be a liar if I said I didn't believe that there is to a certain extent, some elitism, but when we are sooo elitist that we become bias and prejudice I think we begin to lose sight of things....As I stated before, if the site were truly serious about show casing progressive music, I believe that, yes indeed, there should be a section on the site where prog albums by "non-prog" bands should appear. I think it would be ok to do so. I don't think that we would lose credibility at all.....If there is one thing that we have been taught throughtout prog history....prog music is in no way dependent on a particular band. That is to say, prog music exists outside of and not chained to certain groups whom we have deemed "progressive". I have a DVD on Genesis, and they interview Phil Collins and he basically says what I am saying...basically that progressive music was something that Genesis DID, but that's not all Genesis IS. People have a way of limiting others, by placing labels on them..we put Genesis in a BOX, and that box was "PROGRESSIVE"....and we expected them to uphold the label that we placed on them. And as I stated before, take someone like Robert Fripp who openly has stated that he DISLIKES the term progressive to describing his music.....Robert Fripp will tell you, that King Crimson's music is NOT "progressive".  If the BANDS themselves were "progressive", everything by YES, Gentle Giant, ELP, Genesis, and Jethro Tull would be progressive. But that's not the case. Infact these bands made the choice to abandon their progressive ways. So therefore, I'd like to suggest, that there are NO progressive BANDS on this site, but rather the site is full of bands who played progressive MUSIC. For example I don't think that Genesis was a progressive rock band..but I think they played at one time in their career progressive music.......does that make sense?? Music exists outside of a particular band, therefore if Queen or Led Zeppelin made an album that was progressive, then THOSE albums should be on the site. It is more important to look at the music and NOT at the band. So with those comments I would like to apologize for my remarks about Pink Floyd...while I still don't regard them as being a "Progressive Band", they most certainly wrote progressive MUSIC ...I hope all that makes sense and I wasn't just rambling.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2005 at 17:12
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I must say that the arguments on personal style are very boring - can't we just talk about the MUSIC?

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Tip: Good debating avoids personal attacks 

No need to get confused just 'coz you're crap at debating Tony...

Don't take away my personal attacks,they're all I've got!!!

And I'm very good at them...........Evil Smile

no, your not

Yes I am you creepy little f**kwit !

I'm not little, just not very tall

 

BTW it's kwikfit



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2005 at 17:09
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I must say that the arguments on personal style are very boring - can't we just talk about the MUSIC?

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Tip: Good debating avoids personal attacks 

No need to get confused just 'coz you're crap at debating Tony...

Don't take away my personal attacks,they're all I've got!!!

And I'm very good at them...........Evil Smile

no, your not

Yes I am you creepy little f**kwit !

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