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    Posted: December 08 2011 at 08:21
Has no-one mentioned 'Hot Rats'? When I first heard it, I thought it was okay - middling as far as Zappa albums go. However, it really is one of those albums that get bets better and better with every repeated listen! Especially 'Little Umbrellas'. Also, possibly the first Zappa jazz-fusion album (unless you put 'Uncle Meat' in that category, which I don't as the latter is much more diverse than that).
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I suggest 'Jazz From Hell' mainly for 'St. Etienne' but it's a bonus if you adore the sound of the Synclavier because then you'll enjoy the rest of the tracks.

Also 'Waka/Jawaka' for the title track and 'Big Swifty'.


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I say go with "Grand Wazoo" and "Waka / Jawaka" first, then move on to "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" and "Uncle Meat". Really all of Zappa"s output from the early years (excluding much of the Flo and Eddie era) is worth your time, but stick with the above titles for your purpose and maybe give "Over-Nite Sensation" a listen, as well as "One Size Fits All".
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Check out the Best Band You've Never Heard in Your Life double set. 
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If you ask me  Every song from Frank Zappa is awesome 
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by daslaf daslaf wrote:

Despite a couple of doo-woop / r&b songs, I think Burnt Weeny Sandwich should be a good addition too


This is what I was gonna say... I've been really enjoying that album lately. The doo wop songs are just the intro/outro and they're just short enough to be fun without becoming obnoxious. The rest of the album is top notch avant-fusion Zappa.Approve

Yeah it's a great record... I think it's more chamber oriented than jazz-wise, but you know, drawing a line trying to define some kind of classification on Zappa´s music it's almost impossible, since he goes from one style to another 




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Oh we shouldn't forget about this one:
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Zappa in New York is exceptional.


Indeed it is - I'd also recommend 'Sleep Dirt', if only for 'The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution'

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Originally posted by daslaf daslaf wrote:

Despite a couple of doo-woop / r&b songs, I think Burnt Weeny Sandwich should be a good addition too


This is what I was gonna say... I've been really enjoying that album lately. The doo wop songs are just the intro/outro and they're just short enough to be fun without becoming obnoxious. The rest of the album is top notch avant-fusion Zappa.Approve
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

My newest Zappa is the live Wazoo, which is pretty good.  I didn't know Greggery Peccary started out as an instrumental.


Bits and pieces of it turned up on the bootleg Piquantique (part of the first Beat the Boots!).  Recording quality's abysmal tho.
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In addition to the others mentioned, "Uncle Meat".
 
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Originally posted by finjuanican finjuanican wrote:

Oh, humour is fine, and probably makes the album just better. I just meant that i don't want it to be all "let me take you the beach"!:D (which is by the way a song I actually like a lot)

Oh nah, the two albums I suggested are not like that. Smile
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Oh, humour is fine, and probably makes the album just better. I just meant that i don't want it to be all "let me take you the beach"!:D (which is by the way a song I actually like a lot)
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My newest Zappa is the live Wazoo, which is pretty good.  I didn't know Greggery Peccary started out as an instrumental.

I don't even have the Grand one yet...



Edited by Slartibartfast - November 24 2011 at 06:58
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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One Size Fits All is superb. Granted, there is a fair amount of humour in it, but trust me when I say it does not hinder the quality of the album in any way. It makes it even better! 

Weasels Ripped My Flesh is also another one of my favourites, and I do recommend it. But it's very funny in places, and that's not what you're after, right?  LOL
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Points: 8 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 10:07
Thank you for your answers! I think i'll now have stuff to listen for at least a week :D. 
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"Imaginary Diseases" by Frank Zappa with the great Jim Gordon who was the most "in demand" studio drummer in the 60's and 70's in the entire music industry. I actually never heard him do anything serious with his drum playing until I heard this Zappa title. This is a must if you enjoy his instrumental work.

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Despite a couple of doo-woop / r&b songs, I think Burnt Weeny Sandwich should be a good addition too
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Zappa in New York is exceptional.
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The Grand Wazoo is absolutely mindblowing.
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