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jammun
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Topic: You left them behind, surprised they're here. Posted: August 28 2011 at 00:41 |
wjohnd wrote:
jammun wrote:
I'm a bit bored today, might as well stir the pot. ELO recorded exactly two excellent songs: Evil Woman and Turn To Stone. Genesis recorded one excellent song, which I was listening to last night: I Can't Dance. |
aw come on...gotta love mr blue sky. school disco flahbacks and all :-)
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Aw c'mon, I may have the occasional flashback or two, but it rarely if ever involves disco. Though now that you mention it I've got a sudden hankerin' to hear some Donna Summer's I Feel Love. That sucker has an organic pumping synth beat if there ever was one.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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wjohnd
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Posted: August 27 2011 at 16:25 |
jammun wrote:
I'm a bit bored today, might as well stir the pot. ELO recorded exactly two excellent songs: Evil Woman and Turn To Stone. Genesis recorded one excellent song, which I was listening to last night: I Can't Dance. |
aw come on...gotta love mr blue sky. school disco flahbacks and all :-)
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: August 27 2011 at 15:56 |
Also
1.- Deep Purple 2.- ELO 3.- STYX
Iván
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: August 27 2011 at 15:55 |
My first musical love was URIAH HEEP, I didn't even knew what Prog was in those days, so I was surprised when I found them here.
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jammun
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Posted: August 27 2011 at 15:49 |
Actually I do like pop, idiot that I am. I don't prefer it, but neither do I denigrate it. Hell, I like Aqua's Barbie Girl. I Can't Dance is pure magic. Many will disagree. It's all good, that's why we have these forums.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: August 27 2011 at 11:35 |
SOunds like you prefer pop music. Mind you I like EW and TTS. I can't Dance isn't even good pop though.
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jammun
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Posted: August 27 2011 at 11:19 |
I'm a bit bored today, might as well stir the pot. ELO recorded exactly two excellent songs: Evil Woman and Turn To Stone. Genesis recorded one excellent song, which I was listening to last night: I Can't Dance.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 26 2011 at 21:12 |
Point well made but don't you agree that you have made it several times before? It doesn't have be brought into all kinds of discussions, right, because people just like to classify. I am against excessive classification in music too but you can't stop people from doing it and even finding reasons to hate the music on account of classification.
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moshkito
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Posted: August 26 2011 at 15:36 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ Glad to see you are once again at large Mosh
BUT
Ok you state disingenuously that you don't listen to 'Prog' but just 'artists' yet post such an assertion on a progressive rock forum? You have already made the demarcation that you deny exists.
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That would be incorrect.
I post here because there are more people that have heard a lot of the music that I happen to love ... that "YOU", call it this or that is meaningless to me ... and remember ... that as long as the music lives ... is, the goal that you, or I, have for all this art ... isn't it?
Edited by moshkito - August 26 2011 at 15:39
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: August 26 2011 at 09:29 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
DiamondDog wrote:
I like ELO, but I wouldn't personally call them a Prog band. |
I might, maybe up until El Dorado or Face the Music. |
That seems to be the general consensus.
Anyone here who was a fan of the commercial Journey and left them behind, surprised to see them here? Kind of like ELO in having prog origins but moving away.
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Journey is here? My God every band is prog related except for Boston (who really are prog related, btw.)
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: August 26 2011 at 08:03 |
^ Glad to see you are once again at large Mosh
BUT
Ok you state disingenuously that you don't listen to 'Prog' but just 'artists' yet post such an assertion on a progressive rock forum? You have already made the demarcation that you deny exists.
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moshkito
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Posted: August 25 2011 at 18:13 |
Hi,
I kinda thought the thread was more about things that were/might have been considered prog that ... we don't listen to much anymore ... and I have a large list.
As stated before, I do not listen to "prog" or to any description of music whatsoever ... I listen to artists and their work.
And yes, lately I have listened again to some older things ... and they were still good after all these years and beers and comments! And I still don't care if they were prog or not!
Third Ear Band
Spontaneous Combustion (Triad album)
Kevin Ayers (Early stuff)
Roy Harper (very early stuff)
Edgar Broughton Band (still sounds magnificent after all these year! It is what punk couldn't do and meen it!)
Kingdom Come (Arthur Brown)
Colin Townes
Spooky Tooth (still love that Season of the Witch!)
Black Widow
Byzantium (both albums are awesome!)
Greenslade
Stackridge
XTC
Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Al Kooper
Marc Almond
Jack Nietzche - St. Giles Cripplegate
Ides of March
Lighthouse
Gil Scott Heron (... I doubt many here saw him, and realized who he was in the "performance" film ... and to boot, listen to those lyrics, to realize how insipid most rap lyrics are today compared to what he was doing!)
... and a few of the albums that did not excite me (again) just like they didn't then ...
Uriah Heep
Kansas
Deep Purple
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 16 2011 at 18:58 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
DiamondDog wrote:
I like ELO, but I wouldn't personally call them a Prog band. |
I might, maybe up until El Dorado or Face the Music. |
That seems to be the general consensus. Anyone here who was a fan of the commercial Journey and left them behind, surprised to see them here? Kind of like ELO in having prog origins but moving away.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: August 16 2011 at 14:33 |
DiamondDog wrote:
I like ELO, but I wouldn't personally call them a Prog band. |
I might, maybe up until El Dorado or Face the Music.
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For6luca
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Posted: August 16 2011 at 11:06 |
Metallica, my favourite band 15 years ago
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DiamondDog
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Posted: August 15 2011 at 23:37 |
I like ELO, but I wouldn't personally call them a Prog band.
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kevin4peace
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 12:46 |
Back to the start of this thread... ELO and Kraftwerk are some of my favourite bands. Standing In The Rain off of Out Of The Blue is simply amazing. As for a full album, I'd suggest On The Third Day. Trans Europe Express is my favourite Kraftwerk album right now, although The Man Machine is great too...
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Nothing to say here. Nothing at all. Nothing is easy.
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moshkito
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Posted: August 03 2011 at 16:11 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
A couple come to mind for me: ELO and Kraftwerk. I wasn't really big into either of these but I had Out Of The Blue and Autobahn. When I became a big prog fan, I didn't keep up with either. So it was years between me moving on and joining this site. When I saw they were here I was surprised, but I still don't have any interest in getting back into them. Of course if any fans want to convince me... |
I personally like the stuff that came out around Kraftwerk, from the solo albums to all the early Ralf and Florian stuff. In many ways, the experimentation and fun derived from it was a lot more enjoyable of a listen than what became the commercialization of the synthesizer as a meaningless instrument ... that is ... the instrument that could do all the other instruments, and now ... cheaper, too!
ELO was very nice and I liked all their albums up until the one that had Eldorado, and all that ... after that I think it lost something. I personally enjoyed Roy Wood's Wizard a lot more, specially "Eddie and the Falcons" (fabulous pastiche of 50's music!) and then "Mustard" (hilarious satires, even on the Beach Boys!) ... but sadly, those albums were kinda ... lost in the shuffle. Not exactly progressive, but Roy was much more adventurous than ELO was, at least, insofar as playing his own instruments. I did think that ELO made the call to go "commercial", and I can't really blame them after so many years in the tank trying hard to make something to enjoy a better car or instrument. But I do like their early incarnation of "The Move" as well, and still have those albums!
But yeah ... Roll Over Beethoven ... and them prog archives! Time to do some rock'in'!
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Failcore
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Posted: August 01 2011 at 13:58 |
Metallica, what the crap. I would have added almost every other Thrash band ever before adding Metallica.They had no experimental/progressive attitude at all.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: August 01 2011 at 09:38 |
tamijo wrote:
Proletariat wrote:
The more I learn about music the more I find that all the genres are poorly defined. Each genre crosses over with every other genre and the lines between them are fuzzy.
When everything is post modern and seperated a few of us may see that indeed nothing is. |
The fact is that its not so much about the genres crossing over, its those ¤%&#&% artists, they keep sneaking out of the box we try to hold them in. |
Well that's more or less what founded prog the genre, mixing with Classical (King Crimson, Yes, Geness, ELP), Jazz (King Crimson, ELP), Folk (Jethro Tull and early Genesis), etc.
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