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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Topic: Spotify Invites (for U.S. residents) Posted: July 30 2011 at 02:21 |
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I somehow don't have any invites and I have had Spotify for 2 or 3 years now... was I supposed to have e-mailed them to get some?
Doesn't matter, as most of my US friends have it now anyway. |
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Andy Webb
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 13:49 | ||
Looks like my brother was invited today without special invites, thanks anyway Alex
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 08:23 | ||
128 vs 320 is detectable but relatively minor. I bought premium for the mobile access and offline ability.
We'll see how the legal issues shake out. Artists were losing so much money to illegal downloads that any amount of revenue capture is probably seen as an improvement.
Like others have said, the few times I buy a hard copy CD I'm usually getting an artist I really care about and try to get it as directly as I can.
I think most artists are still making reasonable money playing live shows. But you have to have a show. Something that people can't get by listening to your record. Umphrey's McGee has an amazing show and they draw great crowds in medium sized venues. Devin Townsend is really funny and sends everyone home smiling. Even successful local artists usually have something about their live playing that makes people enjoy their evening. Prog is a listener's genre and watching great musicians perform their music note for note is only going to hack it for a narrow audience.
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Windhawk
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 04:53 | ||
I didn't say there weren't any differences, but that the differences aren't dramatic ;-) For dramatic differences, try listening to a 64 kb/s file, or a 56 kb/s one. |
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 04:29 | ||
If I were a premium user I would be definitely angry to get a 160kbps streaming instead of a maximum one (like agreed). Also, judging by how much it pays, I doubt Spotify will make a difference for the indie scene. There's not much of a difference between zero and zero dot zero zero zero twenty nine, for an indie band.
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 04:24 | ||
I'm all for hating audiophiles and their ridiculous claims, but this is really not true. I can tell, and my "set-up" would anger any audiophile. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Philamelian
Forum Groupie Joined: May 01 2009 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 67 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 04:20 | ||
They even don't make that much money from gigs I think Windhawk. Yesterday I was chatting one of the iconic names of the prog scene, he said he still plays in bars for 25$ to make some money. There must be a way out. People should pay for their entertainment and pleasure. Probably you can earn far more money working as a masseur during times you spend working for creating a music peace or practice music. It's pity...
Another interesting thing is one of the good money sources of musicians is marchendise. That is a good thing for advertisement but in the end you are earning money like a high street clothes shop. |
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Windhawk
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 04:05 | ||
What many forget is that the artists doesn't get anything from airplay
in the US. FM radio pay out exactly zero to the artists. Spoitfy taking
over for radio for many music consumers will mean that the artists gets
something where they got zero previously. Additionally, as fees for
radio play where these are applied (i.e. in most of the world outside of
the US) these aren't paid out directly to the artists and copyright
holders. Instead, they are divided up according to playtime statistics
for the most played artists, with a minor percentage set aside for those
with limited exposure. In short: For most indie artists radio play
means zero money any way. Spotify does rectify that.
In the future I think we'll see a rise in subscription fees. A probable solution is that artists and labels gets the chance to label certain tracks for promotional purposes, and that the cheaper subscription rates would include the streaming of usch tracks at various intervals. And with only a much more highly priced subscription giving the listeners the free for all options you have today. As far as streaming quality goes, you'll need a special interest to notice any dramatic differences in sound between 128 kb and 320 kb tracks. Besides that, even at 10 bucks a month having easy access to all that music is dead cheap, no matter how you look at it. By the way, from what I hear and read most artists don't make much, if any, money at the concerts they have. Unless they have reached a broader popularity threshold that is. For the greater majority, money earnt will be limited to whatever CD and t-shirt sales they have after a concert. |
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Rune2000
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 23 2004 Location: STHLM, Sweden Status: Offline Points: 1833 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 03:48 | ||
It's pretty much common knowledge that artists don't make any real money by selling their music, live gigs is where it's at! I usually try to buy as much of the band's music straight from the source, for example the recent Russian Circles gig where I bought both of their latest albums straight from one of the band members. I'm also planning to purchase all material that Polkadot Cadaver-members will have available on their new website.
Besides, surely there is a difference between streaming royalites and Mp3 file purchases. I usually stream a track multiple times, plus more people get exposed to the artist's material. The whole streaming rate issue has never bothered me in the slightest and I still have the nerve to consider myself an audiophile!
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 02:28 | ||
Indeed, it's even worse than Last.fm, surprisingly enough. And the streaming rate and transparency about that streaming rate leaves a lot to be desired. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 02:12 | ||
Rumours say that songwriters earn close to nothing with Spotify's scheme, and that Spotify is in fact owned and set up by the major labels who want to counter the illegal filesharing services with this "too-good-to-be-true" and economically un-viable scheme, so they don't really care about the songwriters not getting much, their stake is much higher. |
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Rune2000
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 23 2004 Location: STHLM, Sweden Status: Offline Points: 1833 |
Posted: July 28 2011 at 00:55 | ||
Just PM me his e-mail.
In other words, people who complain about the absence of Tool, Pink Floyd and Metallica have nothing to complain about, that is if they already own those albums (which I assume they should). Edited by Rune2000 - July 28 2011 at 01:05 |
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Windhawk
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
Posted: July 27 2011 at 17:42 | ||
If this company is like most others, they'll see to it that this service gets to be an essential part of your life. And then the cost will creep upwards. In time possibly adding some additional services as well. Cloud storage for your owned music for instance. At a cost. |
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Andy Webb
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
Posted: July 27 2011 at 17:34 | ||
I was emailed in ~a week Alex do you have any more invites left? My brother wants to try it.
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lazland
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13627 |
Posted: July 27 2011 at 13:23 | ||
I'm a newcomer to Spotify - only the last week, and Rune 2000 has already given me some help
I have to say it's excellent. There is no way I could ever afford all of the music I see on this great site, so I have been rather selective in what I have purchased and reviewed. Now with this, I can listen time & again, review, and enjoy, all perfectly legally. Highly recommended system.
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: July 27 2011 at 11:17 | ||
Previous to Spotify, I bought alot of music. Some of it I'd listen to 4-5 times and barely touch it again. Even at $10 a month, this is going to save me money. I'll still buy Opeth's new album and things I know I'm going to want to have along time. But right now I'm listening to Battles new album...perfect example of something I really wanted to check out, and probably would have blown some money on. It's ok, but Mirrored is much better. I'll listen to it a few times, review it, and probably still go to Mirrored when I want to scratch that itch. Already paid for my month.
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Rune2000
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 23 2004 Location: STHLM, Sweden Status: Offline Points: 1833 |
Posted: July 27 2011 at 10:38 | ||
The catch is that we don't own the music since it's all up there in the cloud. Unfortunately it's impossiable to explain this model to eager record collectors. Even if those guys buy all the albums they possibaly can there's just no way they would have access to amounts of music available on Spotify and other streaming services. That's PROGRESSIVE thinking right there! Edited by Rune2000 - July 27 2011 at 10:44 |
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: July 27 2011 at 08:32 | ||
I only waited about a week, got Spotify 2 days ago and premium last night.
It is amazing. Listening to Opeth's MAMH right now, an album I never got around to buying.
I keep pinching myself...what's the catch?
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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A Person
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
Posted: July 26 2011 at 15:53 | ||
I was wondering what the waiting period would be.
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Rune2000
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 23 2004 Location: STHLM, Sweden Status: Offline Points: 1833 |
Posted: July 26 2011 at 15:45 | ||
Oh, I remember one of those from a few years back (oh the memories!).
It took me a few month to get an invite that way. |
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