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    Posted: July 25 2011 at 15:58
Originally posted by Seleras Seleras wrote:

ACR - Thanks for the visually stimulating tour of '73-'74. With the recommendations I've been receiving I better start ordering music on Amazon.co.uk and buy everything in bulk. Haha.

Alitare - Any good progressive "stations" on XM (aka, do any even exist?)

Drew - Of course I do. Who can resist a man that looks like a human/turtle hybrid.

I work for XM, I sell XM, but I never listen. No, there's not a single station with the slightest progressive tendencies. The closest you get is Area, which is solely for trip hop and art dance music like Portishead, Aphex Twin, Massive Attack, and DJ Shadow (I happen to enjoy all these bands immensely, but note I said LIKE these bands, because you only hear these bands once in a month).

But hey, you turn on to our fabulous Classic Vinyl and you can have the pleasure of hearing Led Zeppelin's Black Dog three times an hour, on the hour. Hey hey, momma! Or turn to Deep tracks and hear Led Zeppelin's Dazed and confused four times an hour! On our fabulous Classic Rewind you can hear Good Times, Bad Times five times an hour! It's so diverse!
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ACR - Thanks for the visually stimulating tour of '73-'74. With the recommendations I've been receiving I better start ordering music on Amazon.co.uk and buy everything in bulk. Haha.

Alitare - Any good progressive "stations" on XM (aka, do any even exist?)

Drew - Of course I do. Who can resist a man that looks like a human/turtle hybrid.
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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

You like Devin Townsend? Yuck......


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Eyeing your  signature I'd infer that you've never heard of the man. See, he's a chicken farmer.
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You like Devin Townsend? Yuck......


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Thanks, ACR, that wasn't overdoing it in the slightest Tongue
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Originally posted by Seleras Seleras wrote:

Pathetic in who's eyes? Probably not to anyone here nor to me. It may not be impressive in the most widely accepted sense of the word around the workplace - but it is respectable to pour yourself into a passion and I think that goes pretty well beyond the depth and value of the typical experiences a workplace has to offer. Thank-you for the thorough response. As you'd expect - it was quite educational.

So what's the third thing folks at work say regarding you? ;-)



The three things they say (not that I believe, condone, or propagate):

-I'm a Caveman
-I'm a music encyclopedia
-I'm so intelligent I should be running the place (a sales call center for XM Satellite radio service with a few hundred employees)
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and 1975
 
 
An amazing year for prog - all these should be heard at leasy once by every prog fan
 
Here is the prog poll for definitive albums of 1975.

An excellent year of prog with legendary albums that kept prog well and truly alive in the mid 70s. I had to leave some treasures out but this list captures the spirit of the era.

 

Scheherezade and Other Stories - Renaissance

 

 

Rotter’s Club - Hatfield And The North

 

 

The Snow Goose – Camel

 

 

Warrior At The Edge Of Time – Hawkwind

 

 

Cunning Stunts – Caravan

 

 

Free Hand – Gentle Giant

 

 

Minstrel In The Gallery – Jethro Tull

 

 

Wish You Were Here – Pink Floyd

 

 

Godbluff - Van Der Graaf Generator

 

 

Voyage Of The Acolyte – Steve Hackett

 

 

Fish Out Of Water – Chris Squire

 

 

Live – Magma

 

 

Electric Silence – Dzyan

 

 

 

Boris – Yezda Urfa

 

 

Si On Avait Besoin D'Une Cinquième Saison – Harmonium

 

 

 and others worth mentioning

Time Honoured Ghosts – Barclay James Harvest

 

Au Dela du Delire - Ange

 

Les Porches – Maneige

 

Ghosts - The Strawbs

 

 
 
 
 
 
A Night at the Opera - Queen

 

 
And there was a list posted of alternatives:
Beck, Jeff    Blow By Blow
Eno, Brian    Another Green World
Gong    Shamal
Kansas    Song for America
Manzanara, Phil    Diamond Head
Nektar    Recycled
Oldfield, Mike    Ommadawn
Residents, The    Third Reich 'N Roll, The
Return to Forever    Return to the 7th Galaxy: The Anthology
Roxy Music    Siren
Roxy Music    Viva
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Top 15 - Here is the definitive albums of 1974.

An undisputed golden year of prog with incredible albums unprecedented in prog history.  

Starless and Bible Black – King Crimson

 

 

The World Became The World - Premiata Forneria Marconi

 

 

Hatfield And The North - Hatfield And The North

 

 

Mirage – Camel

 

 

Hamburger Concerto – Focus

 

 

Welcome Back My Friends... Emerson Lake & Palmer

 

 

Köhntarkösz – Magma

 

 

You – Gong

 

 

Hall Of The Mountain Grill - Hawkwind

 

 

Red – King Crimson

 

 

The Power And The Glory – Gentle Giant

 

 

Red Queen To Gryphon Three – Gryphon

 

 

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway – Genesis

 

 

Relayer – Yes

 

 

Crac! – Area

 
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Originally posted by Seleras Seleras wrote:

Hi AtomicCrimsonRush,

Pleased to meet you. Do you have any recommendations for where to get started in 70s era prog? I'm aware of the more popular artists like Jethro Tull, ELP, Kansas and Genesis but have a very limited knowledge of that decade.
Can I Mention the years 1973 to 1975 are the best prog years form many 70s bands. i will post some albums from my prog throught the years blog - those albums are no doubt the best
 
 
starting with 1973
 

A very strong selection of prog was released and kept the prog genre very much alive and kicking. Drove me crazy trying to get this list down to 15 but this is a good selection. I am stunned that this many masterpeices were released in one year, my favourite year for classic prog:

 
Dark Side Of The Moon – Pink Floyd
 
Photos Of Ghosts - Premiata Forneria Marconi
 
 
Larks' Tongues In Aspic – King Crimson
 
 
Flying Teapot – Gong
 
 
Space Ritual – Hawkwind
 
 
Felona & Sorona – Le Orme
 
 
Birds Of Fire – Mahavishnu Orchestra
 
 
For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night – Caravan
 
 
Selling England By The Pound – Genesis
 
 
Remember The Future – Nektar
 
 
Angel's Egg – Gong
 
 
Brain Salad Surgery – Emerson Lake & Palmer
 
 
Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh – Magma
 
 
Io Sono Nato Libero– Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
 
 
Arbeit Macht Frei - Area

 

There were a number of others chosen, with passion might I add, including:
 

The Six Wives of Henry the VIII – Rick Wakeman

 

 

Illusions on a Double Dimple - Triumvirat

 

Herbie Hancock - Sextant

 

Billy Cobham - Spectrum

 

A Passion Play – Jethro Tull

 

Voice -  Capability Brown

 

 

Tales From Topographic Oceans - Yes

 

 

In a Glass House - Gentle Giant

 


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Pathetic in who's eyes? Probably not to anyone here nor to me. It may not be impressive in the most widely accepted sense of the word around the workplace - but it is respectable to pour yourself into a passion and I think that goes pretty well beyond the depth and value of the typical experiences a workplace has to offer. Thank-you for the thorough response. As you'd expect - it was quite educational.

So what's the third thing folks at work say regarding you? ;-)
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Folks at work have said three things of me, including nicknaming me "The Caveman". But mostly they call me the music encyclopedia.

I don't try to impress with music knowledge or any factually-based information, though. Either you're right or you're wrong. Why argue over something that can be proven or disproven in ten seconds with an internet inquiry? Music's just one of my few deep passions. I think I primarily come here because I feel repressed in my daily life; too lacking of other individuals with which to engage in rousing musical discussions. So when I stumble across some poor shmuck at work who likes to talk music, I wear his ear out. I chatter in a half-sensical barrage of albums, years, name-drops, references, and all such blustering foolishness. Blah blah blah I really don't care for Punk, especially the Sex Pistols, but git the hell outta London Calling - though, ol' Joe Strummer's got a knack for rising above a trite stylistic imperative, yes? No, Never listened much to New York Dolls, but they seemed like less catchier versions of Mott the Hoople.

For example - I can connect Jesus Christ to Def Leppard's one-armed drummer and the Phantom of the Opera.

Def Lep's one armed drummer? He played with a man by the name o' Vivian Campbell, who just so happened to axe-master for early Dio albums like Holy Diver. Dio? Before his ludicrous stint in black Sabbath (with Iommi, who had played with Anderson in Tull), he was the main pipes-man for the dragon rock group: Rainbow. Rainbow is probably my favorite 1970's metal band, and Ritchie Blackmore, famed as he was, played guitar. Of course we all know Blackmore from Deep Purple. Who was their most famous lead singer? Ian Gillian. Ian actually struck me, not because of the silly hard rocker posturing in the likes of Highway Star, but in the touchingly sentimental role of Jesus of Nazareth in the original 1970 LP pressing of Andrew Lloyd Webber's Jesus Christ Superstar. Hey, Webber did Phantom of the Opera, didn't he?

Yes, I'm pathetic on several differing levels. But it's quite fun to me.
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Triceratopsoil - Thank-you for the recommendations. Consider them added into my personal "rotation"

Guldbamsen - I do occasionally enjoy the ambient nature of some of the PT material. I'll be sure to check out Djam Karet.

EchidnasArf - The least metal sounding? The most recent album from those artists that fits the bill would be "Ghost" from Devin Townsend. It's very ambient, acoustic, relaxing music with some flute, synth and intermittent croaking frog samples (who knew they could be so soothing). It's an interesting one for the fact that Devin also released another album on the same day called "Deconstruction" which is best described as total chaos (upon the first few listens at least). It's always nice to see artists showcase some diversity.

Alitare - Bloody hell you're a thorough man. Thank-you for that. My knowledge of music looks infantile against what you just posted. Looks like I have my work cut out for me. 
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I love the 1970's, musically. My personal favorites from the decade:

1 - Jesus Christ Superstar - Andrew Lloyd Webber/Tim Rice - 1970
2 - Small Change - Tom Waits - 1976
3 - Songs in the Key of Life - Stevie Wonder - 1976
4 - Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd - 1973
5 - Red - King Crimson - 1974
6 - Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd - 1975
7 - Aqualung - Jethro Tull - 1971
8 - Closing Time - Tom Waits - 1973
9 - I Robot - Alan Parsons Project - 1977
10-Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull - 1972
11-Selling England by the Pound - Genesis - 1973
12-Animals - Pink Floyd - 1977
13-Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie - 1972
14-Godbluff - Van Der Graaf Generator - 1975
15-First Utterance - Comus - 1971
16-John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - 1970
17-Ashes are Burning - Renaissance - 1973
18-Talking Book - Stevie Wonder - 1972
19-Songs of Love and Hate - Leonard Cohen - 1971
20-Berin - Lou Reed - 1973
21-Tea for the Tillerman - Cat Stevens - 1970
22-Honky Chateau - Elton John - 1972
23-Tanx - T.Rex - 1973
24-Cosmo's Factory - Creedence ClearwaterRevival - 1970
25-Sticky Fingers - Rolling Stones - 1971
26-Who's Next - The Who - 1971
27-Catch a Fire - Bob Marley - 1973
28-The Wall - Pink Floyd - 1979
29-Death of a Ladies Man - Leonard Cohen - 1977
30-Bat out of Hell - Meat Loaf - 1977
31-Imagine - John Lennon - 1971
32-A New World Record - ELO - 1976
32-Tumbleweed Connection - Elton John - 1970
33-Eldorado - ELO - 1974
34-Voyage of the Acolyte - Steve Hackett - 1975

There are a bunch more, but to me, these are all 5 star albums. This list excludes albums I haven't formally reviewed, and it excludes material from era giants such as Bob Dylan, because I haven't had the time to delve too deeply into their careers as of yet. And no, it's not a prog-exclusive list. Yeah, there's a reason why Close to the Edge, anything by Rush, Foxtrot, and anything from Led Zeppelin aren't up there. You could guess a guess, fantastic.


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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Yea yea Wiki link but, was too lazy to find another source...


"The album was also produced by Steven Wilson, who contributed backing vocals and keyboards, and co-wrote one song, "Death Whispered a Lullaby".


Oh ok. He's been credited on every Opeth album since Blackwater Park LOL
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Yea yea Wiki link but, was too lazy to find another source...


"The album was also produced by Steven Wilson, who contributed backing vocals and keyboards, and co-wrote one song, "Death Whispered a Lullaby".
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Pineapple Theif - What We Have Sown, Someone Here is Missing, Tightly Unwound

Opeth - Damnation. Calm and no growling album produced by Steven Wilson.



Was it produced by Wilson? I thought he just played on it. 
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Pineapple Theif - What We Have Sown, Someone Here is Missing, Tightly Unwound

Opeth - Damnation. Calm and no growling album produced by Steven Wilson.
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Originally posted by EchidnasArf EchidnasArf wrote:

Originally posted by Seleras Seleras wrote:

Currently I'm listening to bands such as Devin Townsend Project, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, The Pineapple Thief, Unexpect, The Mars Volta, Coheed & Cambria, Rush and *Frost. I also play guitar/write songs and do so in a way which likely reflects my adoration and respect for those bands.

Well, TMV's first 3 albums I liked a lot... and I haven't heard Devin Townsend, Opeth, the Pineapple Thief, or Unexpect. Please recommend me an album of one of those bands that is the least metal sounding.Tongue And welks to PA.

You could try What we have Sown by Pineapple Thief. It´s definitely the least metal sounding band from the list - that´s for sure. Very similar feel to Porcupine.
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Originally posted by Seleras Seleras wrote:

Currently I'm listening to bands such as Devin Townsend Project, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, The Pineapple Thief, Unexpect, The Mars Volta, Coheed & Cambria, Rush and *Frost. I also play guitar/write songs and do so in a way which likely reflects my adoration and respect for those bands.

Well, TMV's first 3 albums I liked a lot... and I haven't heard Devin Townsend, Opeth, the Pineapple Thief, or Unexpect. Please recommend me an album of one of those bands that is the least metal sounding.Tongue And welks to PA.
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