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The Wizard
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Topic: Why Were Yes Great? Posted: July 19 2005 at 17:25 |
Yes were great because of there skill as musicians, there creativity, songwriting and unique sound. While they influenced all progressive bands afterwards, they still have a very unique sound.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 07:00 |
The Prog Man wrote:
JesusBetancourt wrote:
If Yes is great to me now( A 22 year old sourounded by so called Neo "prog" and "Prog" metal that bring true prog a bad name imo) then it must have been great then....
| Hey man, I'm thirteen! Growing up in the rap and pop world. I've escapede from bad music and I love Yes to. They were the 1st prog. band I got into . I love Ricks seriousness and excellent playing. What I don't like about Emerson is because he's a showy type of person. Rick does his job and he does it good. .. great(actually)! It takes some time to get used to Jon Anderson though. Once you get used to him you'll enjoy Yes a lot better! |
Rick Wakeman was never a showy type of person...
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 06:09 |
Syntharachnid wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Fragile wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Rick
Wakeman. His only competition technically is Emerson, and
he undoubtedly plays with more sensitivity. Enough
said.
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Just a quick point - I'm guessing you've never heard Gentle Giant.
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...sigh... Actually, you're right, I haven't. I'm working on it, but they aren't a big thing here in Canada. Their albums are hard to find.
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If you're a keyboard fan (and a lot of proggers are)
when you hear Kerry Minnear you'll be blown away. Not by his showy runs
and big solos, but by his sheer precision and inventiveness. Oh, and
the fact that his keys never, EVER sound dated.
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Trouserpress I don't know how or why but I have heard very little of Gentle Giant can you recommend some albums to listen to?
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Cor... well, there's really a different optimum
starting point for various types of prog fan - it all depends on your
musical background and current tastes. It's hard to go wrong with "In a
Glass House" though.
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Darn, I was thinking about that same question. Isn't "In a
Glass House" the album that didn't even make it to Canada?
Too bad if it is.
P.S. I am a huge keyboard enthusist. I take piano lessons, and
dabble in synthesis, as well. If Kelly Minnear is as good as his
reputation, I'll probably love GG! |
It was recently remastered and should be readily available now. Some
people have said they've even found it in Best Buy! If you can't get
"In a Glass House" then find another - any album between "Three
Friends" and "Free Hand" would be a superb starting place.
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 00:25 |
JesusBetancourt wrote:
If Yes is great to me now( A 22
year old sourounded by so called Neo "prog" and "Prog" metal
that bring true prog a bad name imo) then it must have been
great then.... |
Hey man, I'm thirteen! Growing up in the rap and pop world. I've
escapede from bad music and I love Yes to. They were the 1st
prog. band I got into . I love Ricks seriousness and excellent
playing. What I don't like about Emerson is because he's a
showy type of person. Rick does his job and he does it good. ..
great(actually)! It takes some time to get used to Jon Anderson
though. Once you get used to him you'll enjoy Yes a lot better!
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:09 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Rick
Wakeman. His only competition technically is Emerson, and
he undoubtedly plays with more sensitivity. Enough
said. |
Just a quick point - I'm guessing you've never heard Gentle Giant.
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Yeah, Kerry Minnear is phenomenal...
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:09 |
[QUOTE=AfanSpur] Was it the songs , the singer, the sound, the energy, the musicianship, the creativity? QUOTE]
All.
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Anonymous2112
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:08 |
All of them are unbeliveabley talented. They may not be the best of the best (At least not all of them are) but they are all highly above your average musicians. And they are very good song wrighters.
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 20:07 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Fragile wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Rick Wakeman. His only competition technically is Emerson, and he undoubtedly plays with more sensitivity. Enough said.
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Just a quick point - I'm guessing you've never heard Gentle Giant.
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...sigh... Actually, you're right, I haven't. I'm working on it, but they aren't a big thing here in Canada. Their albums are hard to find.
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If you're a keyboard fan (and a lot of proggers are) when you hear Kerry Minnear you'll be blown away. Not by his showy runs and big solos, but by his sheer precision and inventiveness. Oh, and the fact that his keys never, EVER sound dated.
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Trouserpress I don't know how or why but I have heard very little of Gentle Giant can you recommend some albums to listen to?
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Cor... well, there's really a different optimum starting point for various types of prog fan - it all depends on your musical background and current tastes. It's hard to go wrong with "In a Glass House" though.
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Darn, I was thinking about that same question. Isn't "In a Glass House" the album that didn't even make it to Canada? Too bad if it is.
P.S. I am a huge keyboard enthusist. I take piano lessons, and dabble in synthesis, as well. If Kelly Minnear is as good as his reputation, I'll probably love GG!
Edited by Syntharachnid
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Fragile
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 20:06 |
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felona
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 19:59 |
Yurkspb wrote:
"Why were Yes great?" The question is not correct - it should be "Why are Yes great?".
And Yes are great because they have created a huge amount of unique top-class prog albums. And it seems to me they are the first band to have so many epics.
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 19:01 |
In that case it's high time you welcomed Gentle Giant into your life!
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 19:00 |
I haven't heard GG yet - and I like keyboards - so I have something to look forward to ?
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Fragile
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 19:00 |
Trouserpress I'm 50 year old and have seen and listened to most things hence my dismay at not hearing this band if they are as good as you say.Yes will always be tops as they had the best musicians best songs and the best singer on the planet.Currently listening to Riverside and Porcupine Tree's Deadwing.But thanks for sharing.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:50 |
Fragile wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Rick
Wakeman. His only competition technically is Emerson, and
he undoubtedly plays with more sensitivity. Enough
said.
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Just a quick point - I'm guessing you've never heard Gentle Giant.
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...sigh... Actually, you're right, I haven't. I'm working on it, but they aren't a big thing here in Canada. Their albums are hard to find.
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If you're a keyboard fan (and a lot of proggers are)
when you hear Kerry Minnear you'll be blown away. Not by his showy runs
and big solos, but by his sheer precision and inventiveness. Oh, and
the fact that his keys never, EVER sound dated.
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Trouserpress I don't know how or why but I have heard very little of Gentle Giant can you recommend some albums to listen to? |
Cor... well, there's really a different optimum starting point for
various types of prog fan - it all depends on your musical background
and current tastes. It's hard to go wrong with "In a Glass House"
though.
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:46 |
I was just using "ELP" as a "control" parameter to justify my elevation of YES to the all time GRAND FROMAGES of symphonic prog rock - In my time of listening (circa 1977 - now) Genesis and Yes have always vied for pole position in my opinion - but as I have got older I began to appreciate TFTO more and more - Thus you young-uns are possibly on the cusp of realisation that just-maybe TFTO isn't a boring waste of eighty minutes...It'll grow on you - Honest
Edited by Swinton MCR
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Losendos
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:22 |
Very Good musicians technically. Very creative at times . Fantastic covers. Great live performances. They are certainly one of the pillars of the genre. I think they also connected commercially which gave more exposure to other prog bands . They created enormous i nterest in prog with tracks like Yours is No Disgrace , All Good People and Roundabout but with TFTO they also seriously harmed the cause.
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Fragile
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:20 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Rick Wakeman. His only competition technically is Emerson, and he undoubtedly plays with more sensitivity. Enough said.
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Just a quick point - I'm guessing you've never heard Gentle Giant.
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...sigh... Actually, you're right, I haven't. I'm working on it, but they aren't a big thing here in Canada. Their albums are hard to find.
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If you're a keyboard fan (and a lot of proggers are) when you hear Kerry Minnear you'll be blown away. Not by his showy runs and big solos, but by his sheer precision and inventiveness. Oh, and the fact that his keys never, EVER sound dated.
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Trouserpress I don't know how or why but I have heard very little of Gentle Giant can you recommend some albums to listen to?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 17:37 |
Syntharachnid wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Rick
Wakeman. His only competition technically is Emerson, and
he undoubtedly plays with more sensitivity. Enough
said.
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Just a quick point - I'm guessing you've never heard Gentle Giant.
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...sigh... Actually, you're right, I haven't. I'm working on it, but they aren't a big thing here in Canada. Their albums are hard to find. |
If you're a keyboard fan (and a lot of proggers are) when you hear
Kerry Minnear you'll be blown away. Not by his showy runs and big
solos, but by his sheer precision and inventiveness. Oh, and the fact
that his keys never, EVER sound dated.
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Winterfamily
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 17:05 |
Ok, that's all true and great, but.... What about the tunes?
I mean, i'm more into krautrock, Eno and weird noisy stuff, but
i love CTTE, Fragile and TYA because their music is like an aural
banquet if you're looking for catchy melodies, vocal and instrumental .
Examples? A whole lot of them: "Heart of the Sunrise", the "I
get up i get down" segment of CTTE (lots of Beach Boys- like harmonies
there), "Starship Trooper"...
So i rest my case: what makes Yes great for me is that i can sing their songs along with the record while 'm washing up
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 17:01 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Syntharachnid wrote:
Rick Wakeman. His only competition technically is Emerson, and he undoubtedly plays with more sensitivity. Enough said.
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Just a quick point - I'm guessing you've never heard Gentle Giant.
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...sigh... Actually, you're right, I haven't. I'm working on it, but they aren't a big thing here in Canada. Their albums are hard to find.
Edited by Syntharachnid
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