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MortSahlFan 
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 Topic: Why the 80's did suck!
Posted: March 01 2018 at 11:48 |
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Much has already been said, but removing the human element... I like music that is timeless, without the gimmicks, drum-machines, or even the real snares that are 10x louder than the vocals (does anybody remember singing?)... Cheesy keyboards, jangly strats, bad production..
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: February 28 2018 at 14:20 |
 ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Taco - Puttin' On The Ritz
Has there been a more abysmal excursion into music than this? |
You're basing the whole decade on one ridiculously stupid song?
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: February 28 2018 at 14:00 |
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the 80s friggin ruled
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 11:01 |
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The 1980s were the decade when it became popular to eat sausages in the street and you could poop your pants in an elevator and no one would mind.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 10:04 |
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I don't think the 80's sucked any more than any other decade...they all had boring 4/4 dance music and insipid pop rubbish. I'd stack The Pretenders, The Psychedelic Furs, REM and the whole US hardcore scene DK's, Black Flag, Minutemen, Husker Du, Meat Puppets, etc against any other decade...
Edited by The.Crimson.King - February 26 2018 at 10:05
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 07:46 |
Cristi wrote:
^ Every decade had crappy music, not just 80s. There was some terrible pop music in the 60s and 70s as well, and then there was disco music.
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This.
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SteveG
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 07:24 |
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Two more precise words would have been "hair bands". micky was close.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 07:19 |
micky wrote:
why didn't the 80's suck... two words
BIG HAIR!!!!! my god... time for another cold shower... |
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Cristi
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 06:45 |
TexasKing wrote:
80's hair bands sucked! |
all of them? I wouldn't generalize like that. I would not use a word like "suck" when I dislike something. Because this is what I think you're trying to say - that you dislike hair metal, right?
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TexasKing
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 06:11 |
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80's hair bands sucked!
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Jeffro
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 05:32 |
Cristi wrote:
^ Every decade had crappy music, not just 80s. There was some terrible pop music in the 60s and 70s as well, and then there was disco music. |
Agreed. The 80s didn't suck any more or less than the 70s did. There's a ton of 80s music I hated back then that I look back fondly on now.
They did suck compared to the 70s with regards to prog though.
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Mortte
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 03:09 |
Cristi wrote:
So, no, 80s did not suck.
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Starting my youth in the begin of eighties I really thought it sucked. But gladly speedmetal in the middle of eighties saved my youth!
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Cristi
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 03:05 |
^ Every decade had crappy music, not just 80s. There was some terrible pop music in the 60s and 70s as well, and then there was disco music. That's why I said I enjoy 80s music, except for dance music. I am not much of a hardcore listener but I can respect what the artists of the genre were doing back then. And then there is crossover thrash, that is thrash meets hardcore punk - Suicidal Tendencies type. And obviously a metal decade... There are even a few hair metal, glam metal bands, call it whatever you want. Problem was labels got greedy and the scene was over-saturated.
Alternative bands, I'm not an expert in any way, but I listen to a few things. I could listen to melodic hard rock as long as I hear some competent musicians.
So, no, 80s did not suck.
Edited by Cristi - February 26 2018 at 03:31
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 26 2018 at 02:45 |
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.......the 80’s didn’t suck (completely) - it’s just that many of our beloved Prog-Rock bands had to adapt to the music bizz of the day in order to survive. Sure, technology and production stylings date material from this period, but I love truck-loads of albums from this period. It was especially great for MetalThrash bands (and Marillion, Pendragon, Twelfth Night etc.)
And you have to accept that for every ‘commercially styled’ band out at the time, there’s usually a band member with talent (and a Prog background......)
Edited by Tom Ozric - February 26 2018 at 02:46
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Mortte
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 23:28 |
I think mainstream music of eighties is mostly awful. That´s the one I heard only in the begin of eighties from the radio, also in the television, so I listened mostly just 60-70ies music. But later I found out there was such bands as Sonic Youth, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Minutemen, Wipers, Meat Puppets, Nomeansno that made really great stuff. Also I found later the end of seventies NewWave bands that continue making good music in the eighties like Joy Division, the Cure, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Bauhaus etc. Of course speedmetal boom in the middle of eighties was great. But I think 80ties is commonly remembered for that awful plastic sounds.
I have said this before but I rather listen 60-70ties crap than eighties just because the sounds.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 19:55 |
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I love 80s music. Heavy metal, new wave, synthpop, no wave, quirky prog like the Cardiacs. There was horrible crap in any decade but there was plenty of cool crap from then :)
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micky
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 14:42 |
why didn't the 80's suck... two words
BIG HAIR!!!!! my god... time for another cold shower...
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verslibre
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 13:50 |
Some bands that excelled in the '80s:
Tangerine Dream Twelfth Night (until Geoff Mann left) Saga (up to '85, anyway) Rush Black Sabbath King Crimson Ozric Tentacles IQ (minus Nomzamo/AYSC?) Eloy King's X Iconoclasta
...and there was some darned good fusion and metal, too.
YMMV, of course...
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Cristi
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 09:58 |
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I enjoy 80s music, everything except dance music.
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Warthur
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Posted: July 04 2011 at 05:39 |
Dean wrote:
^ a'tchly I don't think it's true anyway - the 70s artists that were not mainstream were on independent labels and for all intents and purposes they were alternative artists - Virgin & Caroline were indie labels, Island & Chrysalis were indie labels, Charisma and B&C were indie labels, Transatlantic was an Indie label, Ohr was an indie label, Brain was an indie label (etc, etc) ... The perception that the 80s were some kind of rebellion against the corporate music industry is misplaced, that rebellion occurred in the 1960s and perpetuated through the 70s and into the 80s. However all through that time-span the major labels were fighting back, sweeping up the indies as they went (such as Atlantic and UA/Liberty, acquired by Warners and EMI respectively in the late 60s) and countering them with ersatz indie labels (aka "imprints") of their own like Deram, Vertigo and Harvest (and of course Apple, Mantecore, Threshold, Swansong, Purple etc). |
Well, that's exactly it - most of the 70s indie labels you cite were being hoovered up by major labels or were in the process of becoming major labels themselves towards the end of the 1970s. Dave Stewart actually goes into this a bit in the liner notes to National Health's "Complete" compilation, talking about how the accountants ended up gradually taking over Virgin to the point where they decided there wasn't an audience for what National Health was doing and gave them the cold shoulder.
The Sex Pistols might have been puppets of the major labels by the end of their career, but the swathe of new indie labels that came out in their wake - 4AD, Beggar's Banquet, Rough Trade, Factory Records - turned out to be crucially important in keeping an independent outlet alive.
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