Maani and everyone:

maani wrote: Yay or nay on that idea?  Because we are not going to "micro-finetune" Prog Archives to fit every little personal quirk of each member. Sorry if that all sounds slightly harsh.  But this is really getting absurd. Peace.

I'm for it (I suggested it in the other thread) ... I don't mind you sounding harsh, but I think you don't need to pay attention to those little "personal quirks" that we mention in posts now and then. You're absolutely right when you say that you can't please everyone, I'm a webmaster myself ... the most annoying bit is when people request something that had actually been done before in the past (even before these people joined) and was then removed (on user request).

I think that any comment we make about how the forum and website works should be regarded as a recommendation, even if it is written like a request. I don't have any problem with you ignoring it alltogether. After all, we're just GUESTS here ...

Peace, and THANKS!

Man Overboard wrote: Wastefall, Spiraling, dredg, Coheed And Cambria, Steve Walsh, and COUNTLESS other artists are not included in the Archives, but their output is 100% prog by the standards of this site.  Is it really necessary to have a seperate forum to discuss things that haven't been processed yet, while Asia discussion is fine and dandy right here in this forum?  I think that's extremely uncool.

I think that it would be very nice to have two categories for prog discussions about specific albums or bands. The separation between included and not (yet) included bands would simply clarify where to look for threads. The threads about prog bands and albums in the main lounge which you are referring to (Asia) would be moved to those categories, so the main discussion category would be much smaller. It would be for threads like "What is progressive music" or "do double albums suck", stuff like that.

The advantage of a more prominent "not yet included" category is that this would be the one category you would need to monitor in order to expand your musical horizon, as it would contain every band/album that some people - like you or me - consider prog, but aren't yet in the archive. As it is now, you have to monitor the main lounge, recommendations and Bands and Albums. 

Man Overboard wrote: Astaroth wrote: Man Overboard wrote: Like 'em or not, Co&Ca are prog.  Co&Ca is NOT prog ... they don't have any prog elements .. I'm sure of that. I think what they do is called punk or emo   Lots of time changes, intricate guitar parts over odd times, conceptual storyline that spreads across not just tracks, but ALBUMS, Geddy Lee vocals, many tracks that span around 10 minutes, lots of mood changes and dynamics...  what else do you bloody want?

I can say the same about Adagio or Heaven's Cry ... everybody has his favorite bands that are not yet included.

BTW: Currently the moved threads remain in the initial category for some time. Why not introduce a similar feature for threads started in other categories: Simply make them show in the main category.

Example:

Instead of "Moved: XYZ" it could show "New thread in Recommendations: XYZ".

People could start the threads in the appropriate category, and they would show for - say - 24 hours in the main prog lounge. It would basically appear to be like it is now, the only difference would be that the admins no longer have to move posts.

It's difficult to explain, what do you think?

Tony R wrote: 1 1/2 hours to first reply. Not exactly a concensus is it.......

depends who's online at the time ...

Man Overboard wrote: Like 'em or not, Co&Ca are prog.

Co&Ca is NOT prog ... they don't have any prog elements .. I'm sure of that. I think what they do is called punk or emo  

Man Overboard wrote: Shut up, you damn t**ser!

OOH I forgot,this is sooooo serious and critical.

DNRTM is where the action is........

Man Overboard wrote: If you have an opinion on this, please share.  If I'm wrong, and everyone's fine with a non-archive band that's fully prog being tossed into Non-Prog Music, I'll let it go and deal with it, but I really think this is an important issue...

There's been a lot of tossing around here recently........just ask the Dream Theater gang !