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ghost_of_morphy
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Topic: 10 most important albums in prog's history Posted: June 27 2011 at 14:48 |
Chris S wrote:
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Actually those aren't necessarily my favorites. I was trying to be as objective as possible. But I don't understand it when people criticize like that but then don't add their own lists.
Anyway, some of those are my favorites like LTIA but if it were really a list of just my favorites I would have put relayer in there. I also would have had wywh or ahm instead of DSOTM. Ut oh. It looks like I somehow left out Pink Floyd. Oh well.
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All good mate...a good list
beatles - revolver
Floyd - DSOTM
Floyd - Meddle
Genesis - Foxtrot
Genesis- the Lamb
Genesis - Trespass
Floyd- WYWH
LZ- III
Camel- Mirage
Caravan - In the Land of G & P
10 is too short, left out Oldfield, Soft Machine, M Blues, Strawbs, Rush etc etc etc. And as you will see these lists can change daily depending on what mood you are in |
The really amusing thing is that half of your list would not have been considered prog in 1979.
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 14:31 |
Valarius wrote:
But this thread is about 'important' albums, not 'best' albums.
'Images and Words' is arguably one of the most important albums in the history of prog metal. |
I think you have a good point any chance I could sneak in Iron Maiden 'Powerslave'?
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Valarius
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 12:53 |
But this thread is about 'important' albums, not 'best' albums.
'Images and Words' is arguably one of the most important albums in the history of prog metal.
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 06:05 |
Images and Words is an infantile attempt on progressive metal. Go to Awake or Train of Thought for the real deal. And of course Scenes from a Memory is even better.
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 05:59 |
Edited by Valarius - June 27 2011 at 06:00
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 02:37 |
Valarius wrote:
This thread is seriously lacking some 'Images and Words' by Dream Theater.
Ok ok it's not as 'important' as Yes or King Crimson, but Prog probably wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for Dream Theater. |
It would probably be a whole lot better
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 01:48 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Actually those aren't necessarily my favorites. I was trying to be as objective as possible. But I don't understand it when people criticize like that but then don't add their own lists.
Anyway, some of those are my favorites like LTIA but if it were really a list of just my favorites I would have put relayer in there. I also would have had wywh or ahm instead of DSOTM. Ut oh. It looks like I somehow left out Pink Floyd. Oh well.
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All good mate...a good list
beatles - revolver
Floyd - DSOTM
Floyd - Meddle
Genesis - Foxtrot
Genesis- the Lamb
Genesis - Trespass
Floyd- WYWH
LZ- III
Camel- Mirage
Caravan - In the Land of G & P
10 is too short, left out Oldfield, Soft Machine, M Blues, Strawbs, Rush etc etc etc. And as you will see these lists can change daily depending on what mood you are in
Edited by Chris S - June 27 2011 at 01:49
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 01:26 |
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Valarius
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 13:23 |
This thread is seriously lacking some 'Images and Words' by Dream Theater.
Ok ok it's not as 'important' as Yes or King Crimson, but Prog probably wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for Dream Theater.
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Posted: June 25 2011 at 21:33 |
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 07:33 |
Five of them should be prog metal.
5 most important albums in prog metal's history.
Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime Tool - Aenima Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory Tool - Lateralus Agalloch - The Mantle
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 06:29 |
BaldJean wrote:
it is highly interesting that no-one mentioned "Psychedelic Underground" by Amon Düül. anyone who is familiar with Krautrock should know about the importance of this album. it is incredibly bad, but that is exactly why it was so important. there had already been many German bands at least two years before that album came out, but none had dared to make an album out of a kind of inferiority complex. after this incredibly bad album no band needed to have an inferiority complex anymore; they could hardly be worse than that. and suddenly many bands made their first album. the importance of "Psychedelic Underground" for the development of Krautrock can't be overestimated; it was much more important for the development of Krautrock than "In the Court of the Crimson King" was for the development of prog. had there been no ITCOTCK prog rock would have happened nevertheless; many bands were already working on something similar. had there been no "Psychedelic Underground" it is highly doubtful Krautrock would ever have happened
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Interesting. I must go and buy it.
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Posted: June 21 2011 at 05:41 |
BaldJean wrote:
it is highly interesting that no-one mentioned "Psychedelic Underground" by Amon Düül. anyone who is familiar with Krautrock should know about the importance of this album. it is incredibly bad, but that is exactly why it was so important. there had already been many German bands at least two years before that album came out, but none had dared to make an album out of a kind of inferiority complex. after this incredibly bad album no band needed to have an inferiority complex anymore; they could hardly be worse than that. and suddenly many bands made their first album. the importance of "Psychedelic Underground" for the development of Krautrock can't be overestimated; it was much more important for the development of Krautrock than "In the Court of the Crimson King" was for the development of prog. had there been no ITCOTCK prog rock would have happened nevertheless; many bands were already working on something similar. had there been no "Psychedelic Underground" it is highly doubtful Krautrock would ever have happened
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One underground German hippy band made such a bad album that no others dared make a better one? Was it so wretched that German record labels got cold feet about the whole burgeoning cosmiche thang? I'm struggling to understand this but I know you are particularly knowledgeable about so called Krautrock and it's history so I'll defer on this occasion.
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Posted: June 20 2011 at 15:16 |
it is highly interesting that no-one mentioned "Psychedelic Underground" by Amon Düül. anyone who is familiar with Krautrock should know about the importance of this album. it is incredibly bad, but that is exactly why it was so important. there had already been many German bands at least two years before that album came out, but none had dared to make an album out of a kind of inferiority complex. after this incredibly bad album no band needed to have an inferiority complex anymore; they could hardly be worse than that. and suddenly many bands made their first album. the importance of "Psychedelic Underground" for the development of Krautrock can't be overestimated; it was much more important for the development of Krautrock than "In the Court of the Crimson King" was for the development of prog. had there been no ITCOTCK prog rock would have happened nevertheless; many bands were already working on something similar. had there been no "Psychedelic Underground" it is highly doubtful Krautrock would ever have happened
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Posted: June 19 2011 at 16:35 |
The list gets easy after King Crimson open the door with In the Court of The Crimson King, ably assisted by ELP and Yes. Prior to that, the crucial recording is The Clouds Scrapbook, the crossing point, progressive links that go back all the way to 1966.
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Posted: June 17 2011 at 13:40 |
- Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's: It started it all, really.
- King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King: Many would say this started it all. It came close.
- King Crimson - Red: The best of the bunch; meticulously crafted.
- Yes - Close to the Edge: The band's trademark sound augmenting stupefying lyrics.
- Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery: All stops pulled out.
- Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts: A fan favorite that even comes with Fripp!
- Maxophone - Maxophone: These guys apparently knew when to quit. A defining example of the Italian sound.
- Camel - Mirage: Fluid and seamless. Perhaps the artiest of the original line-up.
- RDM - Contimination: More a demonstration than a concept album. Missing only the kitchen sink.
- Genesis - A Trick of the Tail: Easily the band's best production and on the heels of an overpublicized exit.
Not necessarily in this order and only IMHO.
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Posted: June 15 2011 at 12:20 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
I'm going to revise my initial list here so that there's only one album per band.
Moody Blues-days of future passed (not their best imo but an important album in the development of the genre) King Crimson- In the court of the crimson king Pink Floyd- Wish you were here Yes-close to the edge Rush-Hemispheres ELP-same Genesis-selling England by the pound Jethro Tull- Thick as a brick Marillion-misplaced childhood ( i had to have something from the 80's) Anglagard-Hybris (maybe the album that unofficially kick started the prog resurgence of the nineties)
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Echolyn's debut was 1991 before Anglagard and Echolyn kept making albums whereas Anglagard did nothing so i think maybe was a good description of Anglagard driving a prog resurgence
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Posted: June 15 2011 at 10:33 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
esky wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
From a historical perspective, with justifications.
1. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed. No matter what anybody tells you, this was the first prog album.
2. King Crimson - In The Court of King Crimson. The album that most people believe began the prog movement.
3. The New Trolls - Concerto Gross Per 1. The birth of the Italian Prog movement.
4. Genesis - Foxtrot. One of two albums that comes to define classic prog.
5. Yes - Close to the Edge. The other album that defines classic prog.
6. Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear. The album that resurrects prog in the English speaking world.
7. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon. This was popular for an insanely long time, bringing prog to the masses.
8, King Crimson - Discipline. In the wasteland of the '80's, Fripp kept the torch lit.
9 Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico. The crown jewel of the Italian prog movement.
10. Rush - Permanent Waves. This kept the prog fires alive during times that were growing increasingly darker.
It saddens me that I could not find room for ELP or The Flower Kings in this list. |
You still can - just flush the Rush and eradicate Marillion. |
I can understand flushing the Rush. There are plenty of other albums that could hit that 10 spot. Gotta love Marilion for resurrecting a genre though, whether you like them or not. |
Granted. Just can't get past Fish's mugging of Gabriel. Bought that album of theirs from the mid-'80s with the FM hit on it and was generally unimpressed so that subsequent listenings of other albums left a bad taste in my mouth, IMHO. As with Pendragon, I can appreciate Marillion's attempt's to honor that which has gone before them.
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Posted: June 14 2011 at 17:21 |
esky wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
From a historical perspective, with justifications.
1. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed. No matter what anybody tells you, this was the first prog album.
2. King Crimson - In The Court of King Crimson. The album that most people believe began the prog movement.
3. The New Trolls - Concerto Gross Per 1. The birth of the Italian Prog movement.
4. Genesis - Foxtrot. One of two albums that comes to define classic prog.
5. Yes - Close to the Edge. The other album that defines classic prog.
6. Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear. The album that resurrects prog in the English speaking world.
7. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon. This was popular for an insanely long time, bringing prog to the masses.
8, King Crimson - Discipline. In the wasteland of the '80's, Fripp kept the torch lit.
9 Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico. The crown jewel of the Italian prog movement.
10. Rush - Permanent Waves. This kept the prog fires alive during times that were growing increasingly darker.
It saddens me that I could not find room for ELP or The Flower Kings in this list. |
You still can - just flush the Rush and eradicate Marillion. |
I can understand flushing the Rush. There are plenty of other albums that could hit that 10 spot. Gotta love Marilion for resurrecting a genre though, whether you like them or not.
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Posted: June 14 2011 at 10:21 |
In no Particular order:
In the Court of the Crimson King |
De-Loused in the Comatorium |
Lizard |
Islands |
Larks' Tongues in Aspic |
Red |
Discipline |
Lamb lies down on broadway |
Level Five |
The ConstruKction of Light
Hard to say though, could have forgotten something. |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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