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    Posted: July 15 2011 at 18:38
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

The reasons the masses hate prog are the very reasons that I love it.
I love prog precisely because the unwashed masses hate it. Tongue

All boils down to unfamiliarity more than anything else.  If it were all they played on commercial radio then they'd like it.
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because KISS fm is currently brainwashing my generation. in all seriousness, most of it doesn't have a steady 4/4 rhythm like pop music does and isn't what most consider "catchy".
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I don't. People do enjoy music for music's sake. They also use it as a soundtrack for their everyday life - even sex, which may be a bit disturbing, when you think about it.
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Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Ruby900 Ruby900 wrote:

Originally posted by tarkus1980 tarkus1980 wrote:

While I generally don't care for the "prog is great, pop sucks" mentality, I'll bite.  Most people who claim to like music don't actually like to listen to music.  They like music that functions as light background while they socialize or work or run.  It's just one of those things.
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Originally posted by Ruby900 Ruby900 wrote:

Originally posted by tarkus1980 tarkus1980 wrote:

While I generally don't care for the "prog is great, pop sucks" mentality, I'll bite.  Most people who claim to like music don't actually like to listen to music.  They like music that functions as light background while they socialize or work or run.  It's just one of those things.
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Originally posted by tarkus1980 tarkus1980 wrote:

While I generally don't care for the "prog is great, pop sucks" mentality, I'll bite.  Most people who claim to like music don't actually like to listen to music.  They like music that functions as light background while they socialize or work or run.  It's just one of those things.
I totally agree with this!
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I think that a lot of people today just can't appreciate Prog.  Their minds are so narrow, set to Pop, Hiphop, Rap.  Whenever they hear something new, or something extremely different and technical, like Prog, they'll give you the same answer:  "That's wierd, turn it off", or something like that.  I think it all comes down to whether people can appreciate it.  It takes a special mind, and a fine tuned ear to be able to figure out the complexity and melodies of bands like King Crimson, ELP, Symphony X, and more. 

I love Progressive Rock, and always will, I just hope people find this REAL MUSIC before it's too late.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

In my experience, most people don't love any music, period (least of all complex music). If they don't opt for TV, they will play a dance-oriented satellite radio channel, and mostly ignore it. For most, music is just background noise -- a steady beat to talk over. I honestly believe most people lack the attention spans needed to really listen to music. They hear it, but they don't listen to it much.They are often totally oblivious to the lyrics, for example -- a 50 year old, educated woman I know recently told me that she "loves" Nickleback. "Ever pay attention to their lyrics?" I asked. "They are often very misogynist, very demeaning toward women."  "No," she replied. So, what does she love about them? An angry voice over aggressive music, I guess. A perceived image. Not the reality of lines like "I love you on your knees. I love my hands around your neck. You look so much better with something in your mouth. She's making six figures... she didn't get this far by just shaking hands." (That's right, girls -- prostitution is your road to riches.)
 
Most people don't read books, or go to see art films, plays, or finely-crafted costume dramas, either. They prefer shows like Jackass, and movies with lots of blood, boobs, and explosions. "Most" people like McDonald's cheeseburgers. Most people prefer Coor's Lite to a tasty, chemical-free, all-natural micro-brewed beer. Most people will not read a news story about the imminent death of the world's oceans, but they'll keep eating shrimp. Most people drive too much, in vehicles that are too big, and burn too much gas. Most people exercise far too little. Many will take up smoking tomorrow, despite having brains. Most people will not change their ways, for the greater good of their planet, and their future. Most people are sheep (tellingly, many will even opt for religions that label them "the flock" and their leaders or saviour figures "shepherds." and thinking too much or acting independently just makes them uncomfortable.
 
Thus, they get the entertainment, leaders, societies and planet they deserve.
 
I think it has always been that way, and likely always will. 
 
Oh, to hell with it -- let's take the SUV to Walmart, then McDonald's!

Hey, I haven't seen you post in a while. I'm glad you could spare the time to come back and make what is possibly the most elitist post in this thread so far in case we'd forgotten about your moral superiority while you were gone. 



OMG this is so great since Henry is the most elitist poster not named Peter in our history. This is like watching someone grapple with them self!

And really, welcome back Peter! You know any flak I gave you back in the day for being a pretentious, arrogant know it all is because I'm the same way but couldn't admit it. Heart


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This thread contains the words 'elitist', 'appreciate' and 'listen' (< but in italics as if to stress its meaning) far too much.

It made my brain melt.


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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:


Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:


 
 
 
Hey, I haven't seen you post in a while. I'm glad you could spare the time to come back and make what is possibly the most elitist post in this thread so far in case we'd forgotten about your moral superiority while you were gone. 

BTW, thank you for suggesting that I am morally superior, but there is really little about morality in my post, or the issue. I was speaking of taste, and of many people's seeming propensity to not think much -- least of all about music. I don't think that's in the realm of "morality."
 
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   90% of the background music in movies and media in general is Progressive , but simply no one knows !!!   imagine it doesn't exist  !!??    the Titanic will be vanished in the Ocean !   However , in my opinion there's only  5%  from earth population can understand , appreciate Progressive & enjoy it  , and it's not easy to accept it if you're not a musician yourself !
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Points: 21795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2011 at 11:23
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by MagnumOpus MagnumOpus wrote:


Simple people like more simple things.
Complex people like more complexity and fantasy stuff.
Just like any polar opposites in life really..

Progressive/Psychedelic/space-rock are music for the dreamer.

I hope you are aware that fantasy literature is usually regarded as middlebrow at best. If you want to demonstrate your intellectual superiority, fantasy books and music made by stoned hippies are not the best choices.


Exactly.

People don't like prog because there are different tastes in the world. We just happen to be the minority.
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Yeah, Lord of the Rings bores me to tears - give me A Canticle for Leibowitz or something.
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Originally posted by MagnumOpus MagnumOpus wrote:


Simple people like more simple things.
Complex people like more complexity and fantasy stuff.
Just like any polar opposites in life really..

Progressive/Psychedelic/space-rock are music for the dreamer.

I hope you are aware that fantasy literature is usually regarded as middlebrow at best. If you want to demonstrate your intellectual superiority, fantasy books and music made by stoned hippies are not the best choices.
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Originally posted by MagnumOpus MagnumOpus wrote:

In my experience, open minded folks, spiritual Hippie-types, have more fantasy and a wider view og the world than the general traditional conservative population.
Much more fantasy & open to possibilities, and that is reflected in the music, from artists who makes it, and the audience that likes it.

Simple people like more simple things.
Complex people like more complexity and fantasy stuff.
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There is no correlation between complexity in the sense of ability to grasp complex things and an open minded philosophical outlook.  Some of the most academically brilliant people I have met or people who manage enormous resources and responsibility have simple taste in music.  Also, ability to appreciate what is good in complex music is nothing without the open mindedness to recognize greatness in simple ideas, for instance, the Beatles song Something. 
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I tend to think that people in general are not open minded enough in general, and that also regards to musical taste as well.

In my experience, open minded folks, spiritual Hippie-types, have more fantasy and a wider view og the world than the general traditional conservative population.
Much more fantasy & open to possibilities, and that is reflected in the music, from artists who makes it, and the audience that likes it.

Simple people like more simple things.
Complex people like more complexity and fantasy stuff.
Just like any polar opposites in life really..

Progressive/Psychedelic/space-rock are music for the dreamer.
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