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    Posted: July 06 2005 at 11:46
Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Jethro Tull: Even when many people believes it's Ian's name, the one and only Jethro Tull invented the mechanical seed drill in 1701.

 

There was another Ian Anderson already established in the UK folk scene, when JT was formed, so maybe that association of the JT name and their front man, was to avoid confusion at the beginning?????


I stand to be corrected, but as I understand it when Tull were starting out, they weren't very good.  Therefore in order to get gigs they went through a lot of name changes so that people wouldn't realise it was the same band.  Eventually they did get asked to perform again.  At that time their name was Jethro Tull, and so they were stuck with it.

They first used the name Jethro TOE

Funny thing, not sure though if this was a mistake of the label.

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Originally posted by WillieThePimp WillieThePimp wrote:

Anekdoten - Just a rough German translation, with elaboration of the word Anecdote.

No elaboration, "Anekdoten" is just the German plural for "Anekdote".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 10:56
Anekdoten - Just a rough German translation, with elaboration of the word Anecdote.

Opeth - Taken from a Wilbur Smith novel in which the city of the moon was titled "Opet". The "H" was added later.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:54

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Uriah Heep: A character from Charles Dickens novel David Copperfieold, a guy who had a pronunciation problem and often said he was Very Eavy and Very Umble, a phrase that was used as the band's debut album.

Almost right, Uriah Heep never ever said "Veyr 'eavy" though, just "Very 'umble"

 

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

AC/DC: Means in fact After Christ, Devil Comes and not Anthi Christ, Devil Child.

Somehow I doubt this one, surely its to do with electrical current?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:18
Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Knights In Satan's Service  

Angel Child/Devil Child

 
I've also heard
 
Kids In Satan's Service  

and

AntiChrist/Dead Christ

Some people sure have overactive imaginations and no facility for critical thinking... The combo that brought you Creationism.



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"Black Sabbath" Took their name from a 1964 horror
film starring Boris Karloff.
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Originally posted by daeve69 daeve69 wrote:

Captain Beefheart's real name is Don Van Vliet, you can learn more at... http://www.beefheart.com/.

 

According to Mike Barnes' excellent biog, Captain Beefheart's name was originally Don Vliet, the 'van' appeared just after the band turned pro.

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Captain Beefheart's real name is Don Van Vliet, you can learn more at... http://www.beefheart.com/.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 03:48

Captain Beefheart

I recall there was an explanation for this in Frank Zappa's biography. "Captains" girlfriend was visiting Capt. during the time he still lived with his parents. His father made some remarks about his genitals to this girl, "Ahh, it's big as cow's beefheart!" Haha.

What was the guys real name after all? He's familiar to me mostly from Zappas "Rats" LP.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 02:15
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Jethro Tull: Even when many people believes it's Ian's name, the one and only Jethro Tull invented the mechanical seed drill in 1701.

 

There was another Ian Anderson already established in the UK folk scene, when JT was formed, so maybe that association of the JT name and their front man, was to avoid confusion at the beginning?????


I stand to be corrected, but as I understand it when Tull were starting out, they weren't very good.  Therefore in order to get gigs they went through a lot of name changes so that people wouldn't realise it was the same band.  Eventually they did get asked to perform again.  At that time their name was Jethro Tull, and so they were stuck with it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 11:58

The Strawbs as a shortened form of the Strawberry Hill Boys or Mob (Strawberry Hill is part of the Richmond/Twickenham area in west London - although Newbury town in Berkshire also has a Strawberry Hill)

Fairport Convention, after one band member's parent's house name where the band convened to practice.

The Doors from Aldous Huxley's Doors Of Perception book - British author Huxley moved to California and spent his last years there, indulging and writing about the early drug culture. It was said that he deliberately ingested LSD when he knew he had only a few hours left to live.

Anybody help with Wynder K Frog, the name taken by Mick 'Blue' Weaver for late 60's albums of Hammond organ covers of hits, before he was part of Strawbs, Taj Mahal's Phantom Blues Band, etc.?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 11:43
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Jethro Tull: Even when many people believes it's Ian's name, the one and only Jethro Tull invented the mechanical seed drill in 1701.

 

There was another Ian Anderson already established in the UK folk scene, when JT was formed, so maybe that association of the JT name and their front man, was to avoid confusion at the beginning?????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2005 at 11:20

Where do people get half this tripe from? Godbotherers Anonymous perhaps. AC/DC came from the bottom of a sewing machine in Ma Young's livingroom.

 

As a resident crusty I'd like to enlighten the world - a tansad is a brand of seat for antique motorcycles.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2005 at 03:28
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

STYX: According to the Divine Comedy by Dante, Styx is a swamp in hell, but according to The Odissey is the only river in hell.....Anyway it has relation with hell.

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There are a lot more rivers in the Greek underworld (or Hades, as it was also named), Styx is only the most popular. Others are Acheron, Phlegethon, Cocytus, Lethe, and Eridanos. When one drank of the waters of Lethe, he lost his memory.
Styx circles Hades 9-times, so one has to cross it to reach the underworld. Charon is the ferryman on the river Acheron (later sources associate him with Styx, but the ancient Greek associated him with Acheron). Also the Greek underworld is NOT comparable to hell. The equivalent of "hell" in the ancient Greek mythology is Tartaros, where for example the titan Tytios lies chained, while 2 vultures eat from his liver (which steadily regrows). Hades (which was also the name of the God of the underworld, one of Zeus' brothers) is just the place where the souls of the dead go.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2005 at 00:43
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Good link Guillermo (some words are part from a letter of Genesis to King), it's interesting how the versions of Genesis and Jonathon King differ.

According to King he's the one who baptized the band (He says it in Genesis a History documental), and according to Genesis, they had the name already.

King appears in the documental and personally claims he asked Peter for the band's name and Peter answered "We have't got a  a name yet", so he decided to throw the first album without a band name, "a mistake I will never repeat" (he also said that).

But it's also interesting to find both agree in the point that From Genesis to the Revelation was released by a band with no name.

I believe it's the only case in history.

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Yes, Iván. It`s incredible that King released an album of a band without name and that he thought that the album was going to have success anyway! I know (because I saw the "History" video) that he had a hit single (called "Everyone`s gone to the moon" or something like that) and maybe some albums too (I don`t remember well). So, he wasn`t without experience about the music business. I think that years later he learned from his "mistake", and since then he has licensed the album to many record labels, so in the market there are a lot of different versions of this album, as "the Genesis Museum" shows. In the Genesis Forum, I realized that he is not very well appreciated by Genesis` fans. In fact, many of them don`t like his personality, calling him "egocentric", and some of them say that he was booed in the "Six of the Best" 1982 reunion concert, when he introduced Genesis. So, now it is not a surprise for me that this man says that he gave the name to Genesis. He is or was  a very powerful man in the music industry in England. I think that he also was manager of 10cc. (he also says that he gave them the name of the band but I don`t know if this is true!), and he has or had a label called "UK" and 10cc. released some albums in that label. He also was recently in jail for some crimes which I don`t like to mention here, but he was released from jail 3 years after being sentenced, and he wasn`t in jail for the 7 years he originally received in the sentence. Like Michael Jackson and some politicians, he  is also free!

In late 1992, I was playing in a band with old friends and with my brother who is a guitarist. We played for some months only for fun really, and we only played covers. We also had an old friend who played in another band with us in 1985, and he was playing in a Bar with another band, so he invited us to play some songs in several occassions in that Bar.The first time we played there, we realized that we didn`t have a name for the band, so our lead singer introduced us as "Los Incógnitos" ("The Incognitos") as a last idea he had for the name of the band!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2005 at 11:21

Good link Guillermo (some words are part from a letter of Genesis to King), it's interesting how the versions of Genesis and Jonathon King differ.

According to King he's the one who baptized the band (He says it in Genesis a History documental), and according to Genesis, they had the name already.

King appears in the documental and personally claims he asked Peter for the band's name and Peter answered "We have't got a  a name yet", so he decided to throw the first album without a band name, "a mistake I will never repeat" (he also said that).

But it's also interesting to find both agree in the point that From Genesis to the Revelation was released by a band with no name.

I believe it's the only case in history.

Ivàn



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About Genesis ("From Genesis To Revelation" lyric sheet and text, which I printed from www.genesismuseum.com for my personal "archives") :

"The group started as Genesis, biblical centuries ago. But fate intervened, other groups became Genesis and who were we to fight. So we changed our name in America to Revelation. Moments later up came another Revelation. Now we are the group without a name, but we have a record and we want to give it to you, name or not.

It was a hard sound to get together, conceived over a period of months, with rainbows of music colour filtering through the glass partition on to the sliding faders and echo knobs, searching for the pot of gold.

From Genesis to Revelation. Sporadic moments in between;" ....etc.

I tried to paste the link to that website, but in this moment  unfortunately it is not available. Maybe the webmaster is updating it. It is a very good website, IMO.

----------------------- -       -----------------------

"But....a few minutes later....the website is available again, and this is the link:

http://www.genesismuseum.com/vinyl/fgtr.htm   "



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 15:16

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by BleedingGum BleedingGum wrote:



GENESIS was taken from the Bible


Genesis wanted to name themselves "Revelation" first, but another band had already taken that name (whatever became of them???). Hence their first album title.
The mad scientist in Barbarella was named "Duran Duran"

Nope Friedre, That wasn't the case of Genesis, even when it was similar:

Peter Gabriel  took a tape to a former student of Charterhouse School (Jonathon King), he liked the music and asked Peter for a band name and he said they hadn't decided yet (Genesis a History), so King decided to name the band Genesis, but the name was already taken by a psychedelic Prog' band from Los Angeles who released a very good album named "In the Beginning"

So Jonathon King decided not to use an artistic name in the first album and only named it "From Genesis to the Revelation" (The original art cover has no reference to a band), so the album was lumped into the religious stuff and nobody bought it.

After a few months Genesis USA disbanded and left the name, so Genesis UK took it.

Another names:

Uriah Heep: A character from Charles Dickens novel David Copperfieold, a guy who had a pronunciation problem and often said he was Very Eavy and Very Umble, a phrase that was used as the band's debut album.

Jethro Tull: Even when many people believes it's Ian's name, the one and only Jethro Tull invented the mechanical seed drill in 1701.

AC/DC: Means in fact After Christ, Devil Comes and not Anthi Christ, Devil Child.

STYX: According to the Divine Comedy by Dante, Styx is a swamp in hell, but according to The Odissey is the only river in hell.....Anyway it has relation with hell.

Vangelis: After deciding that Evengelios Odiseus Papathanatious was not a commercial name, he changed it for the simpler Vangelis.

Pavlov's Dog: A Russian Physiologist named Ivan Petrovich Pavlov conducted a series of experiments with dogs in the turn of the XX Century, given them fopod after riging a bell, after a while his dogs started to salivate at the sound of the bell, that's why the name of their second album.

Pendragon: According to British Mythology it's the frst Royal Dinasty of England, started with Uther Pendragon and ended with his bastard son Arthur Pendragon, known as King Arthur.

King Crimson: "King Crimson" was coined by Pete Sinfield as a poetic form  for  Beelzebub, the angel of music.

Ivàn

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 08:14

Originally posted by BleedingGum BleedingGum wrote:

DURAN DURAN was taken from the movie Jane Fonda's Barbarella. I think it was the robot's name [?]

DJAM KARET is taken from Indonesian word, means: Rubber Time

Thanks for letting about their name!

GENESIS was taken from the Bible

But they were called Revelation first...........



YES was taken from English Dictionary

None of the band could spell affrimertiver, afirmytiv,  or waht ever....................


Hatfield & The North was indeed named after the first roadsign going north on the M1 motorway, just after you  come off the North Circular Road.

Pink Floyd after two obscure but favourite blues singers of the original band.

Rolling Stones from a Muddy Water tune

 

But why the Walker Brothers?????

 

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