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    Posted: October 05 2013 at 17:09
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So, what do YOU wait for writing such a book? Come on, Moshkito, write a book, go and see artists  and write a book!
 
Half way there.
 
And for your record, some folks at PA are being interviewed for it as well, because they deserve the credit and the beauty their words carry in this place, instead.
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Here are some of my favorite books related to progressive and electric folk:
 
 
Seasons They Change: the Story of Acid & Psychedelic Folk by Jeanette Leach
Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain's Visionary Music by Rob Young
Electric Folk: The Changing Face of EnglishTraditional Music by Britta Sweers
White Bicycles: Making Music in the 1960s by Joe Boyd
Twenty Thousand Roads: The Ballad of Gram Parsons and his Cosmic American Music by David Meyer
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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The book will aim to provide the definitive history of the Canterbury scene, as documented in the extensive press archive I have had access to, and as told by its protagonists, a lot of whom I have interviewed. The book will also offer a critical perspective on the vast musical legacy of that scene....

I'm thinking that this will be impossible, since the beginnings of the Canterbury scene involved too many other arts and disciplines, that pop music folks do not believe in, or have ever heard. On top of it, the folks involved were so ripped, they didn't know the difference, and hearing about it today is ignored. Daevid's recollections are the clearest, but he is being polite and not saying a whole lot, and the others are so quiet as to be embarassed that they were there and had sex with whomever!

A work that was more complete, and had more information in it would be interesting, but I can not see anyone being man enough to even talk to actress Julie Christie, or actor Michael Caine, and they were all there, and even spent time in the same house as Ayers, Wyatt, Allen, several other artists, painters and writers, that we choose to ignore, rather than find why they are all there in the first place.
 
And it is sooooooooo artistic to have writers, poets and philosophers listening to jazzy music and discussing their latest adventure, you know. That story is in hundreds of Parisian cafes in the 20th century! Oh, that would interest your book a lot! Heck, even Yoko One, was in the same neighborhood, but taking her feelings and word for any value?


So, what do YOU wait for writing such a book? Come on, Moshkito, write a book, go and see artists  and write a book!
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Originally posted by from calyx from calyx wrote:


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The book will aim to provide the definitive history of the Canterbury scene, as documented in the extensive press archive I have had access to, and as told by its protagonists, a lot of whom I have interviewed. The book will also offer a critical perspective on the vast musical legacy of that scene....

I'm thinking that this will be impossible, since the beginnings of the Canterbury scene involved too many other arts and disciplines, that pop music folks do not believe in, or have ever heard. On top of it, the folks involved were so ripped, they didn't know the difference, and hearing about it today is ignored. Daevid's recollections are the clearest, but he is being polite and not saying a whole lot, and the others are so quiet as to be embarassed that they were there and had sex with whomever!

A work that was more complete, and had more information in it would be interesting, but I can not see anyone being man enough to even talk to actress Julie Christie, or actor Michael Caine, and they were all there, and even spent time in the same house as Ayers, Wyatt, Allen, several other artists, painters and writers, that we choose to ignore, rather than find why they are all there in the first place. It doesn't have to be a tittilating experience or a Pam des Bullpucky, but it would give it some depth that would help make the whole thing more valuable. But excusing it on some esoteric, and absurd musical note or notation, is a waste!
 
And it is sooooooooo artistic to have writers, poets and philosophers listening to jazzy music and discussing their latest adventure, you know. That story is in hundreds of Parisian cafes in the 20th century! Oh, that would interest your book a lot! Heck, even Yoko One, was in the same neighborhood, but taking her feelings and word for any value?


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Jim DeRogatis' book is great for psyche, yeah. 


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Time for another thread resurrection. I'm interested in reading up on the history of electronic music, specifically what happened between Kraftwerk and the IDM explosion of the 1990s. So far on my reading list is that book mentioned on the first page that several PAers wrote and the following:

Julian Cope - Krautrock Sampler
Mathias Kilian Hanf - Detroit Techno
Simon Reynolds - Energy Flash
Simon Reynolds - Generation Ecstasy

I might also look up Jim Derogatis' Turn on Your Mind to see what he has to say on the subject. That book's about psychedelic music in general and all about drawing lineages from the 1960s to now, but him having to focus on several different genres and subcultures over 40 years often results in his coverage being rather superficial. (I reviewed that book's previous incarnation Kaleidoscope Eyes)

There's also quite a bit of more fanziney stuff about the industrial end of things, most notably the RE/Search handbooks.
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Yes, the Kotsopolous book is  excellent - deep on the scene at the time (albiet lacking when it comes to discography of obscurer Krauts)
 
 
 
Being a poor boy, I gots the local library to get it for me.
 
However, they let me down on these books which I wanted much more:
 
MORTON JACK - GALACTIC WOTSITS (RAMBLE?)
MORTON JACK - ENDLESS WOTSITS (JOURNEY??)
PATRICK LUNDBORG - PSYCHEDELICA
jOHAN KUGELBERG & PAUL MAJOR - ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE: HOMEMADE RECORDS 1958-1992
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A thread isn't dead if the topic interests people.  Until it's locked, then those interested must start a new one themself.
 
This book on Krautrock is excellent.
 


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I apologize that i'm exhuming dead thread, but could anyone recommend me books on Prog rock subgenres such as Avant, RIO, Krautrock, Zeuhl and even regional Prog scenes? i would appreciate it very much, thank you
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Anything avant-related?
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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

I know there are books on Krautrock, and on Folk, and on Psychedelia - are there books on other subgenres of prog? 
 
I'd be especially interested to know of any books on Prog Metal or Jazz Rock/Fusion, but any others would be good to know about too.
 
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Jazz Rock: A History by Stuart Nicholson, published at least 15 years ago is the bible beit with a heavy American slant (up to ~15 years ago), if you can find it - and will the person I lent my copy to about a decade ago, return it!!!!. Nicholson's Is Jazz Dead Or Moved To  A New Place fills in some gaps of the subsequent years, although it is  broader wrt the new/nu jazz described, while comparing against the more recently prevailing "Jazz is America's classical music" of the jazz establishment.  Interesting biogs of Mahavishnu Orchestra (Power, Passion And Beauty: The Story of the Legendary Mahavishnu Orchestra: The Greatest Band That Ever Was by Walter Kolosky), Joe Zawinul (hence Weather Report) (Brian Glasser's In a Silent Way: A Portrait of Joe Zawinul), and Jon Hisemen (Playing the Band: The Musical Life of Jon Hiseman by Martyn Hanson and Colin Richardson)
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Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

You must read Mean deviation by Jeff Wagner. It's a book about prog metal. When I say prog metal I mean about extreme prog metal too.



I concur  with this this statement. It made a good reading, although i expected  less known bands.
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I'm thinking a Proto book would be terrific - and it'd stop before the 1970s, of course.
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Book in English about ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO
 
You can find it HERE
 
You can download a preview of the book in PDF (more than 100 pages) . Click HERE

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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

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Book in English about ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO
 
You can find it HERE
 
You can download a preview of the book in PDF (more than 100 pages) . Click HERE


I wouldn't like to sound like a snobbish person, but... Is there an Italian version?
 
No, there's no Italian version for this book...
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Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Thanks!
 
Now where are the Canterbury book, the Neo book, and the Proto book?
 
There's a book in Italian about the Canterbury scene...


It looks like Aymeric Leroy will finally be releasing his book on the Canterbury scene at the end of this year in French, and then an English translation may follow ere very long.

  http://calyx.perso.neuf.fr/

Originally posted by from calyx from calyx wrote:


I have been at work, for several years now, on a book about the Canterbury scene. I am finally close to finishing it. A publication date for the French version has been set for November 2012; hopefully an English translation will follow in the not-too-distant future.

The book will aim to provide the definitive history of the Canterbury scene, as documented in the extensive press archive I have had access to, and as told by its protagonists, a lot of whom I have interviewed. The book will also offer a critical perspective on the vast musical legacy of that scene....

 
Good news! I've read Aymeric Leroy's book about the history of prog and I think it's a very good one!
 
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The original definition I came up with for Eclectic was enough material for two volumes. Good think David was a good, if cruel editor. LOL
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Are we (the Art Rock past and present teams) to write the first books on Eclectic, Heavy and Crossover ourselves? :D


Considering your inventiveness when it comes to the terms Crossover Prog, Heavy Prog and Eclectic Prog, methinks you'd almost have to (though I sure do see those terms being widely used outside of PA now as subgenre terms).  Though I had no part in the set-up of those categories, perhaps I could help as a former member of the Eclectic Prog team. :D
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Are we (the Art Rock past and present teams) to write the first books on Eclectic, Heavy and Crossover ourselves? :D
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Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Thanks!
 
Now where are the Canterbury book, the Neo book, and the Proto book?
 
There's a book in Italian about the Canterbury scene...


It looks like Aymeric Leroy will finally be releasing his book on the Canterbury scene at the end of this year in French, and then an English translation may follow ere very long.

  http://calyx.perso.neuf.fr/

Originally posted by from calyx from calyx wrote:


I have been at work, for several years now, on a book about the Canterbury scene. I am finally close to finishing it. A publication date for the French version has been set for November 2012; hopefully an English translation will follow in the not-too-distant future.

The book will aim to provide the definitive history of the Canterbury scene, as documented in the extensive press archive I have had access to, and as told by its protagonists, a lot of whom I have interviewed. The book will also offer a critical perspective on the vast musical legacy of that scene....



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