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TheProgtologist 
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 00:26 |
 SomethingGood wrote:
The first thing American's do when they see a great British comedy is say "that's great, let's see how we can butcher it!"
A perfect example is the US version of The Office. But there were also US versions of Red Dwarf and Coupling which were so bad I couldn't believe it. Why bother trying to mess with perfection? it was quite obvious from the start that you'll never be able to top those shows.
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We are Red Dwarf addicts in my household.Have all 8 seasons on VHS and 1-6 on DVD and are RABID in our love and devotion for that show.We recently got our hands on the pilot episode of the American version and it was an absolute travesty.Bad beyond belief.
We watch a lot of Coupling too and when they showed it here in America(the American version),we didn't even bother to watch because we new it would SUCK,And it did.
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 00:22 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Too bloody right it is! Americans wouldn't know good comedy if it stood naked in the doorway and begged them to make love to it.
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That's why me and my wife are Britcom addicts and have been for around the last 15 years.
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 20:48 |
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^^ That's why you don't do it with skanky women. As a comedian once said (a good portion of this is bleeped out for the sake of the children) "If you don't trust the p**sy, why are you f**king the p**sy?" Besides the Clap had some pretty good guitar work.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 20:45 |
A good comedy can't get you the Clap. 
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 20:15 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Too bloody right it is! Americans wouldn't know good comedy if it stood naked in the doorway and begged them to make love to it.
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No but I would know a hot blonde if she stood naked in the doorway and begged me to make love to her. In the end, which is the more important to know?
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 20:13 |
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The first thing American's do when they see a great British comedy is say "that's great, let's see how we can butcher it!"
A perfect example is the US version of The Office. But there were also
US versions of Red Dwarf and Coupling which were so bad I couldn't
believe it. Why bother trying to mess with perfection? it was quite
obvious from the start that you'll never be able to top those shows.
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 19:06 |
Too bloody right it is! Americans wouldn't know good comedy if it stood naked in the doorway and begged them to make love to it.
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 19:01 |
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I live in Britain....but i'm Scottish first and foremost.
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 02:39 |
Meh, threefates, it's not about live things sounding the same as the
studio version. I'm all for improvisation and changes.
I just didn't fancy the guy's vocals on that track, the first PT song I
ever fell in love with. I do like Deadwing, though not as much as
their older stuff. 
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 02:37 |
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PT's remake of Fadeaway signifies everything I don't like about their current iteration... 
Edit: To elaborate:
I first got into Porcupine Tree in 1999, when I found a copy of Up The Downstair at a record shop. It seemed unique, so I thought I would give it a try. It was amazing... and Small Fish/Burning Sky/Fadeaway is still one of my favorite album closers.
As of late, PT's had far too little spacy exploration, far too much alt-rock. Now, I don't mind alt-rock in my prog, but I dislike it when it wasn't there to begin with and creeps in like a tumor later on.
So when I heard that PT was doing Fadeaway on tour again, I was excited. I read they did it on the XM2 disc, so I got ahold of that...
... Who is this guy singing? Why does it hurt my ears? The song itself remains basically unchanged, but the VOCALS are something awful... it would be like having Captain Beefheart sing Golden Slumbers or Jon Anderson singing Bobby Brown Goes Down, some songs just do not need a vastly different vocalist on it, especially when it's not even a cover... if this is how they wish this song to be remembered... 
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First off.. you were listening to a live version of Fadeaway... and it was sung by John Wesley, who plays guitar with PT on the road. I've heard him do that song live, and personally didn't find it to be that bad.
Second, since when did anything live sound just like the studio version... and who are you to question Steven Wilson's taste. He likes the way Wes sings it. Also I really like the direction in which PT have headed lately. Deadwing is now my second favorite PT album behind In Absentia. I prefer them a little harder.. and less spacey. But if you don't like Deadwing.. you'll probably love their next album, since last I saw Mr. Wilson he was buying some obscure heavy metal albums and the Godspeed You Black Emperor cd...
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THIS IS ELP
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Posted: July 30 2005 at 23:03 |
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted: July 30 2005 at 21:38 |
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Posted: July 30 2005 at 21:32 |
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the british are silly. why would they go to such trouble of setting up a colony only to get greedy with the taxes and have said colony revolt and completely screw over the mother country. it's just like my grandfather once said to me: "coffee is for people who think that drinking tea makes them look like new age yoga bastards."
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Posted: July 30 2005 at 21:20 |
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Check out the John Cleese link I put in 'Just For Fun' forum
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Posted: July 30 2005 at 20:40 |
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the British forced the pilgrims on America.
Now the US will be ruled by fundamentalist Christians forever.
Damn them!!!!!
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Posted: July 30 2005 at 20:36 |
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And don't forget the sumptous Faggots that we eat!
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There stands Olias to outward to build a ship
Holding within all we hope to retain
The frame will be so built to challenge the universe
Clasped with the skins of the fish of the plain
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Posted: July 30 2005 at 20:08 |
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I'm not British, but Scottish, but anyway the US has given the world so much crap in music and war, and numpty Presidents.
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Posted: June 27 2005 at 08:00 |
Paradox wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
limeyrob wrote:
Look at the top 50. We may not be trusted but we make some damn good music.
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And cake... we make quite good cake.
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Chelsea Buns! 
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and probably brew the best beer.
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Ridicule is the burden of genius.
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Posted: June 24 2005 at 17:49 |
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Personally I love alt rock, and new PT is exactly that... big deal its still good just not 100% prog.
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 22:33 |
Paradox wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
limeyrob wrote:
Look at the top 50. We may not be trusted but we make some damn good music.
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And cake... we make quite good cake.
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Chelsea Buns!
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Victoria Sandwich ... Eccles cakes ... Gingerbread Men
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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