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    Posted: February 10 2011 at 14:14
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

 
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

some people do get advanced review copies. 
 

I am sitting on at least five advanced copies with release date. I have told the bands/labels that the reviews will be published on that date - or later - and they all agree with that. That self imposed policy solves that problem.  

 
It's a two edge sword.
 
There are bands that might need the extra publicity, and if they know the reviewer is saying something nice, they will want that to help create the excitement. And just as we say that, someone else feels differently.
 
I do think that it is very fair, and that we should do this on the release date, as Torod suggests ... but that would be an honor system for each and everyone of us ... do we have one?
 
And while it is nice to see some outsiders add their "reviews", here is a case where ... we are here discussing it as slightly inappropriate, but we don't know if it was one of the band members that did that, while he/she is still excited about their latest piece.
 
Or we can pull a Pink Floyd ... play something in concert for over a year or two, and then not release it on the next album! That ought to get a few reviewers ticked! And some fans, too -- like me! I still don't think WYWH is that good an album compared to other things and work, and that Raving and Drooling was more fun to trip to, than the ensuing result. 
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:28
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I've contacted the person involved via email but I amnott confidence of a response.

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He responded that he'd watched this many times:




LOLwhat? LOL
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 14:55
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I've contacted the person involved via email but I amnott confidence of a response.

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He responded that he'd watched this many times:


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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

When I worked in a record store, it was not unusual to get promos before the album was released.
If someone received a copy of an album that way, would it be wrong to review it?
 
No, legitimate reviews of that type are fine. A rating without review on the other hand is just silly.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Unbelievable.Stern Smile
 
For some reason, this made me laugh. Maybe it was the inevitablity of the problem and this reaction. Idk...
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Points: 5482 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 09:58
When I worked in a record store, it was not unusual to get promos before the album was released.
If someone received a copy of an album that way, would it be wrong to review it?
Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 09:51
Meanwhile Wilcey, just let us know of any pre-release ratings to be removed (PM or post hereWink)
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Points: 20030 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 07:12
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

The courts. It is not very likely, but in a very fluid scene where the law firms is moving about the net, we should already now establish some sound routines. So when the flood comes; we are as insured as your own house is insured.  

.......... but this has been an ongoing debate in PA since you were a young delinquent.......... Wink


I really don't see why a justice system would ever care, even if a musician brought a suit against PA for some reason. Even if someone did bring a suit, it would be a jurisdictional headache to get to Max in Canada from wherever the musician is, unless Rush, GYBE, or Devin Townsend took personal offense for some reason. ;-)

Yes, I know this is something that has been discussed ad infinitum, and I don't understand why it's still an issue when the only benefit (not making the few people with legitimate promo copies wait a month before posting their review) is so small, but whatever.
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

This is ridiculous. Who gave it a 5 star rating?

Somebody who is apparently very enthusiastic.


I see a single 3 star rating slipped in at the end.LOL

Motorpsycho must be a bit upset - the only band/album he hasn't given 5 stars to!
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Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:


Best option is to have an option in the EDIT/ADD album "Allow ratings and review" YES/NO for pre-release additions.



Sounds like a good idea overall, but the Add/Edit function is available to any users so anyone could unmark the album for reviewing. And I wouldn't want to lose the universal access to Add/Edit, non-collab users do a lot of helpful work on the discographies.
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I say go for it, M@X. 
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Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Managing this is hard.

Best option is to have an option in the EDIT/ADD album "Allow ratings and review" YES/NO for pre-release additions.

When a reviewer wants to rate it or review it, there is an option please contact ADMIN TEAM with a link to a forum , asking for Unlocking the album with reason. And content moderator can unlock if reason is approved .

Something like that ...

Any better idea ?

That sounds quite good. If Admin are not overworked of course. There could be many requests
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Points: 4028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 06:56
Managing this is hard.

Best option is to have an option in the EDIT/ADD album "Allow ratings and review" YES/NO for pre-release additions.

When a reviewer wants to rate it or review it, there is an option please contact ADMIN TEAM with a link to a forum , asking for Unlocking the album with reason. And content moderator can unlock if reason is approved .

Something like that ...

Any better idea ?
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Points: 3658 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 06:53
 
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

some people do get advanced review copies. 
 

I am sitting on at least five advanced copies with release date. I have told the bands/labels that the reviews will be published on that date - or later - and they all agree with that. That self imposed policy solves that problem.  
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 06:50
I wonder if "blocking the ratings until release date" is actually manageable. There are hundreds of albums coming out every year. If M@x could add a date related lock on the album then it would still be hit and miss and some people do get advanced review copies.

Best to just pick up the obvious offenders and tackle it that way?



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Points: 3658 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 06:49

We need a volunteer/own admin for that. You take that up with the powers that is ?   



Edited by toroddfuglesteg - February 02 2011 at 06:50
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 06:44
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

We can stop any publishing of ratings and reviews before the release date. Then again; we do not have any access to a database which gives us these dates...... I believe. Neither do I believe such a database excist. It did 20 years ago though when I started out. The music business is incredible fractured at the moment with numerous of publishers/record labels. If we are sending out enquiry emails to everyone who may release something, we may be less popular than personal visits from Jehovah Witnesses and that even in the Pendragon HQ. 

I really do not know how to stop ratings like that one.  



Usually releases like this have their dates annouced. Block the ratings since the actual release date, problem solved.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 06:40
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I am nit 

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You missed out the "a"
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Points: 3658 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 06:40

We can stop any publishing of ratings and reviews before the release date. Then again; we do not have any access to a database which gives us these dates...... I believe. Neither do I believe such a database excist. It did 20 years ago though when I started out. The music business is incredible fractured at the moment with numerous of publishers/record labels. If we are sending out enquiry emails to everyone who may release something, we may be less popular than personal visits from Jehovah Witnesses and that even in the Pendragon HQ. 

I really do not know how to stop ratings like that one.  


  



Edited by toroddfuglesteg - February 02 2011 at 06:42
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I've contacted the person involved via email but I am nit confidence of a response.

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