Should hard narcotics be legalized?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Easy Livin wrote: General reminder.   Please remember our rules relating to illegal activities. Do not use this forum to promote the use of illegal drugs. Don't worry I got it under control for you. I already banned Stoney.

Oh thank God someone finally did

It's probably not worth it. Some amazing life experience though.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: It is doomed to failure for certain things, but only if you have a conception of certain things that you want regulated in a certain way. I don't see a need for much regulation at all obviously. Without a government, bands of firms don't really ever become quasi-government in the way I mean the word. EDIT: Are you a doctor or just in the research end of medicine? I've always assumed the latter.

It is doomed to failure for certain things, but only if you have a conception of certain things that you want regulated in a certain way. I don't see a need for much regulation at all obviously. Without a government, bands of firms don't really ever become quasi-government in the way I mean the word.

EDIT: Are you a doctor or just in the research end of medicine? I've always assumed the latter.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - January 21 2011 at 13:06

Negoba wrote: Well that's the hard part. When does a semi-private body (like the American Medical Association) get just as bad as "government" when they are handed the keys to regulation. I certainly think that a group of pharmacists and doctors would be better at choosing rules about medicine than businessmen and lawyers, but there are alot of conflicts of interest that could muddy that system too.

I didn't say allow the AMA, which is nothing more than a cartel, to control the supply. Each individual firm producing it would control the supply. However, firms often band together and set certain industry standards. I don't mean establishing a quasi-governmental body embedded in a private organization.

Negoba wrote: Just curious Pat, do you think non-psychoactive medication should be unrestricted. Such as cardiac medicine that is great for ailing hearts with correct monitoring but can kill if incorrectly used? Guys like me would just give suggestions for use rather than prescriptions?

Well unrestricted is a vague term. If you mean unrestricted by any sort of government mandate then yes. Professional and industrial means of restricting the sale, I have no objection to that. I think that some drugs should be more freely available. Some should probably remain a little more rigidly kept.

Garion81 wrote: Just a question for clarity.  When you say legal do you mean completely legal with no restrictions whatsoever?  Do you mean light regulations like cigarettes and alcohol but still sold in the common market?  Heavily regulated that you would need permits and doctors administration? or legalized for medical purpose only?  I mean there are many degrees of legalization.   I probably would support it this way for Marijuana the second step I mentioned.  For harder narcotics if you are already addicted then the third solution and only legal for the medical purpose only.  For sure though the unregulated manufacture and distribution of these drugs should always be illegal.  Way to much potential for death other than the API main effects or side effects on people.

I'm in the minority, probably a minority of one, but I think it should be sold by anyone, anywhere, to anyone, anywhere, subject to no restriction, tax, etc.

For example with coke leaf products: I'm pretty sure legalization would reduce the cost of powder cocaine, thus effectively eliminating the need for most production of crack, thus eliminating its most dangerous alternative. But with coke being illegal, the price is so high that low-income people had to be offered the much more addictive crack.

Wouldn't the problem with hard narcotics (addiction, side effects, ruining lifes, etc.) be solved by legalizing the softer drugs? I mean, would one still need them if the softer option would be legally and comfortably available? 

Edited by harmonium.ro - January 21 2011 at 11:48

Personally the carbs in beer worries me much more than the alcohol.