R.I.P. Captain Beefheart |
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 17925 |
Topic: R.I.P. Captain Beefheart Posted: December 21 2010 at 19:14 |
They do ... and are out there ... but a board like this one has to be open to it, and appreciate it ... and we have to do more to make sure the new artists can get respect and some credit.
But it can't happen when we are stuck on the oldies and defining the oldies ... instead of turning our ears more towards the newbies!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: December 21 2010 at 19:05 |
The Captain is still dead? Dammit!!!
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:49 |
RIP Mon Capitan
didn't understand your music, but appreciated the impact.
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Lozlan
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2009 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 536 |
Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:27 |
I am deeply ashamed to admit that I never got around to exploring his output during his life. That being typed, I just picked up Safe As Milk today. I think a very long and verrrrrry intense love affair is blooming.
RIP. Edited by Lozlan - December 21 2010 at 16:28 |
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Certified Obscure Prog Fart.
The Loose Palace of Exile - My first novel, The Mask of Tamrel, now available on Amazon and Kindle |
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zravkapt
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6446 |
Posted: December 21 2010 at 09:53 |
The Day Captain Beefheart Outsold the Beatles, the Stones and Pink Floyd
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Saperlipopette!
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12199 |
Posted: December 21 2010 at 09:42 |
People like the great Captain simply don't exist in music anymore. A true, genuine artist.
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XTChuck
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 21 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 407 |
Posted: December 21 2010 at 09:01 |
Captain and Frank are probably having a great jam session right now..........
RIP
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Rabid
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 20 2008 Location: Bridge of Knows Status: Offline Points: 512 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 21:36 |
R.I.P Capt.
Another hero down.
Will be looking for you at Observatory Crest.
Vaya con Dios, mi amigo.
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"...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..."
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 17925 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 17:55 |
Hi,
Warning: Headitorial/Soapbox Moment!
A lot of us here, have said some nice things about this ... and even from an outsider this is massively appreciated.
However, it is really strange to me to see some people say nice things, and I am not sure everyone knows, sees or understands, what it takes to be an original, and one that stood up for his music and eventually quit the music business because ...
The late 60's and then the 70's had a massive number of folks that were highly expressive, original, and ... sometimes the best description was ... off the wall!
It was a time that allowed people to experiment, to learn, and look for new things, unlike today, when even in a board like this one, there are so many that love to trash threads with trolling comments, and making comments that are NOT on par with the "experimenting" of that time, not to mention critical analysis of the work at hand today, and dismiss the good work, and good intent, of many of those people in the arts and some revellers that also appreciate the work.
So, if I may ask, when you take your hat off, for a Frank Zappa, or a Captain Beefheart ... please ... remember what the art and the artist's work stood for ... and how that is so missed today -- and not appreciated in this board ... by folks that continuously compare everything done today to how it was done yesterday ... 40 years ago or so ... and remember one very important thing ... music can't expand and go further, without those kind of people ... in the end it's not just about the notes, or another screaming voice, or screaming guitar ... it's about the artist ... that left an indelible stamp on us all ... because it was art ... not just music.
It's hard, at this moment, not to agree with Walter when he says music died in 1989 ... it doesn't give a Djam Karet and many other bands the dues they deserve, even today, but ... he has a massively important point to make and show ... that this commercially minded thing today needs to get broken apart, or this generation will go down in history as boring and non-existant.
I can tell you that my generation is well represented and remembered! You talk about them all the time in this board ... and though I feel, sometimes, that you are not totally correct, in the end, that's not a criticism ... you will know about this when you become an artist, and are fighting like heck for your work ... and hopefully never reach that day where you quit ... you don't need it anymore ... and we lose another voice! Yours!
Just remember that when you take your hat of to Don, one more time!
That kind of indomitable spirt is needed really bad these days in all the arts! And it would be nice to see it more in a place like this one.
/Soapbox Moment Over
RIP Don, and yes, you will be missed. Edited by moshkito - December 20 2010 at 17:59 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Languagegeek
Forum Newbie Joined: June 18 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 38 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 17:28 |
I was left shocked and numb when I heard. I had just listened to Mirror Man, Clear Spot, and Safe as Milk the day before. We were all fortunate to walk the earth at the same time as an eternal artist such as he.
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sorcerer kermes
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2008 Location: Iran Status: Offline Points: 102 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 13:50 |
rip
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 07:03 |
He had a heart of beef. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 06:09 |
Chris, I couldn't have put it better myself RIP Cap'n |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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clarke2001
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 05:48 |
My spirit's made up of the ocean
And the sky 'n' the sun 'n' the moon 'n' all my eyes can see I cannot go back to your land of gloom Where black jagged shadows Remind me of the coming of your doom I want my own land Take my hand and come with me |
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JethroZappa
Forum Newbie Joined: August 17 2007 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 33 |
Posted: December 20 2010 at 04:29 |
Sleep well, captain
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"I hope they all get an indigestion, I hope, hope, hope, hope, hope!"
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spookytooth
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 06 2008 Location: Atlanta, Ga Status: Offline Points: 438 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 23:41 |
This is horrible to hear. You will be missed, Don.
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Would you like some Bailey's? |
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KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 22:50 |
First Dio, now Don
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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jammun
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 22:32 |
Ain't that the case. I've listened to much of his music last night that I haven't heard in a while (particularly some more obscure Trout Mask tracks) and I'm still in awe, 40 years down the road.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 21:04 |
I forget just how unfathomably creative this man was until I listen sometimes. It's just hard to believe.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 20:38 |
Don's last album was released in 1982, yet people still regularly mention and discuss him. Don't worry guys, his legacy isn't going anywhere. He'll rightly be remembered for decades to come. RIP Don.
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