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Epignosis
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Topic: New feature: Quick Rating Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:29 |
I love this quick rating feature not because of its main purpose, but because it lets me see what I've already reviewed and what I haven't- all at a glance.
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M@X
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 12:46 |
it's not been done yet. I got caught in 1000 things. Will work in this soon, thanks
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 05:01 |
I dont bother just rating now as it takes ages to have to find your review and then edit it. Reviews are the only things worth posting IMHO. I dont take a scrap of notice of the ratings.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: December 13 2010 at 14:28 |
Oh, to answer you (I forgot), I'm pretty sure, but not 100%.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my
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Marty McFly
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Posted: December 13 2010 at 14:28 |
^ Well, I wanted to watch this process closely, but I somehow overlooked the time. But review is from Posted Monday, December 13, 2010, 09:43 EST and I think that in this timezone, I rated it at 9:05 EST.
But this isn't the main problem for me, what would really get me into "quick reviewing", is to be able to easily rate and then review. Not through a difficult way of clicking to my review panel and editing existing rating. And to have as much ratings as possible is purpose of this site, because even I like reviews and they're useful, ratings only forms majority of PA. It's better to quickly rate album than wait few days/weeks with review, because meanwhile the album is without ratings.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: December 13 2010 at 10:15 |
Marty McFly wrote:
Well people, I've just rated album with intention to write review in future (50 minutes later), just to try this out. Even such rating is very interesting and useful feature, there are big problems with it:
1)If you rate first and after day or two write a review, it won't appear on main page. |
Are you sure about this? M@x said he will make it possible for the review to appear on the homepage even if it was posted after the rating, and someone reported that it works.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: December 13 2010 at 10:13 |
Well people, I've just rated album with intention to write review in future (50 minutes later), just to try this out. Even such rating is very interesting and useful feature, there are big problems with it:
1)If you rate first and after day or two write a review, it won't appear on main page. 2)You have to go "http://www.progarchives.com/ReviewerPage.asp" in order to write this review. It would be much better if you somehow implemented feature that you would be able to write to: a)rate an album b)write a review in a normal way (on album page) c)and this review's submit would work. You know what I mean by c) ... you can't rate album first and then review it. You have to open your review admin panel. It would be much better (meaning - user friendly) to be able to.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my
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M@X
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Posted: December 07 2010 at 05:52 |
Good suggestion , noted !
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Relayer Duos
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Posted: December 06 2010 at 14:11 |
I think a good feature would be to create a confirmation dialog box whenever you click one of the quick rating stars. That way you don't accidentally rate something you've never listened to, etc.
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Is it true that they who speak loud, strong and right also plant dead flowers?
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M@X
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Posted: November 24 2010 at 16:18 |
The QUICK RATING is now available in the TOP PROG ALBUM list.
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Evolver
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 15:56 |
Thanks, Max.
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M@X
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 15:19 |
What I was supposing since a long time ago, the PA forum is using all the resources of the site (discography) and the performances of site is deterring.
I will be busy in the next day finding a solution, thanks for reporting
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M@X
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 14:33 |
^^ Evolver, I will check this out. I understand that the page is longer to load when you are logged in ?
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SaltyJon
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 14:25 |
Evolver wrote:
I would like the feature mor eif it didn't significantly slow down the loading time of artist pages. Try opening the page of someone who has fifty or more albums. It takes forever (almost). |
Been on Zappa or Tangerine Dream's page?
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Evolver
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 14:21 |
I would like the feature mor eif it didn't significantly slow down the loading time of artist pages. Try opening the page of someone who has fifty or more albums. It takes forever (almost).
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 20:27 |
Great feature - really makes the site feel more alive and interactive as well.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 08:41 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Try to get more weight to your ratings instead of complaining.
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This is a terrible argument, but it always seems to come up when people talking about this, and strangely it's always from the people who already have the weighting...
I don't care much either way, but he's right that there's almost no point in actually giving a rating only, which really makes adding a quick rate feature equally useless, even if it's probably better for the site to minimize the impact of ratings only. And of course being able to quickly see which albums of a band you have already rated is nice too. I'm just saying.
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Of course there is a point to rating, which is why I also rate. I wouldn't rate if there wasn't any point to it. And like Dean says, my rating has the same weight as any other newbie's.
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Textbook
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 04:45 |
Good work. Now let's have a "Quick Ranting" feature.
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Dean
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 03:59 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Try to get more weight to your ratings instead of complaining. |
This is a terrible argument, but it always seems to come up when people talking about this, and strangely it's always from the people who already have the weighting...
I don't care much either way, but he's right that there's almost no point in actually giving a rating only, which really makes adding a quick rate feature equally useless, even if it's probably better for the site to minimize the impact of ratings only. And of course being able to quickly see which albums of a band you have already rated is nice too. I'm just saying. |
For "rating only" everyone is the same, whether you are a collab or not the weighting is "1"
Alex meant "write a review", that increases the weighting for non-collabs to "10"
In light of this, collab weighting is only "2" since their "rating+reviews" equates to "20" and I think that 2:1 ratio is fairer than it has been for a long time.
However, personally I think the ratios of 10:1 and 20:1 are too high as the ratios of ratings to reviews is probably closer to 3:1 for most albums, but we are a review site, not a rating site.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 01:28 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Try to get more weight to your ratings instead of complaining.
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This is a terrible argument, but it always seems to come up when people talking about this, and strangely it's always from the people who already have the weighting...
I don't care much either way, but he's right that there's almost no point in actually giving a rating only, which really makes adding a quick rate feature equally useless, even if it's probably better for the site to minimize the impact of ratings only. And of course being able to quickly see which albums of a band you have already rated is nice too. I'm just saying.
Edited by Henry Plainview - November 17 2010 at 01:30
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