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    Posted: September 01 2017 at 11:04
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I like his work with Ty Tabor in The Jelly Jam. Big smile

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The guy's good and I've never seen him proclaimed as one of the best bass players so no, not overrated.
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He is an extremely gifted bassist. Can't be overrated coz I just don't hear much about him.
I thought his playing on Octavarium was fine. Not often high in the mix, but some noticibly stellar work there.
Mostly he is severely under-mixed IMO. And I'll never understand the likes of Rudess (and Sherinian) as to why the main solo sounds are so 'guitar-like' ??? Strikes me as a keyboardist who wants to be a guitar-hero.....
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Points: 2201 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2017 at 10:11
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Isn't everyone overrated or underrated?

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I like his work with Ty Tabor in The Jelly Jam. Big smile
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I don't think he's overrated. As far as chops go, he's second to none, and his ideas are often excellent, as are his lyrics. The man just needs to step out from the shadows and become more of a creative force in the band, rather than just the lubricant between the guitar and the drums, which is a role he seems to consign himself to, judging from an interview or two I've read of his.
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Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

That man talks too much

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And your comment is way too personal. Uncalled for, actually. You want to take somebody on, take on his ideas, not merely the fact that he has expressed them. Angry


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Extremely?
I don't know about that.

I like him. I think he's pretty good.
Is he a bit overrated?
Yeah probably, I mean it is DT...but I wouldn't say extremely overrated.
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i think he has said himself, he prefers to be more in the backround, but still, he seems to have no room to shine in DT's music as of late.

Train of Thought, the bass is very loud on that album

Octavarium (song) does have many great bass moments. not to mention on the rest of the album.

You can hear him a couple of times on BC&SL, it's SC where he is completely missing.


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There are some moments where Myung shows his talent, but unfortunately, like many said, on most of the DT songs he is inaudible.
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Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

I think it's more that he's underused, so he doesn't have much chance to flex his musical muscle in the music. Listen to some of the work he's done outside of DT for a better idea of how versatile he actually can be. Same thing with Jordan Rudess, by the way.

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May be he is... the best.
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Originally posted by pjamstudio pjamstudio wrote:

I wonder how many people would think the mixes were "muddy" so they "couldn't hear the bass" if they weren't listening to mp3's on tiny earbuds?  (No, I'm not buying this just from Steven Wilson.)

I really miss the quality of an actual recording as opposed to a compressed internet-formated copy...

Oh well

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Originally posted by pjamstudio pjamstudio wrote:

I wonder how many people would think the mixes were "muddy" so they "couldn't hear the bass" if they weren't listening to mp3's on tiny earbuds?


At least I didn't claim the mix is muddy. It's just there's too much bottom end in the guitar and in metal music, bass tends to meekly accompany the guitar riffs, so you can't hear much of Myung.  Further, when I say "hear", I don't mean literally hear. I mean that I want to hear the bassist dazzling me and instead he is completely crushed by Petrucci's heavy riffage.  I don't even know why anyone can claim with a straight face that it is as easy to notice bass playing in Dream Theater's music as it would be on an old Canterbury album. 
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 17:18
Originally posted by pjamstudio pjamstudio wrote:

I wonder how many people would think the mixes were "muddy" so they "couldn't hear the bass" if they weren't listening to mp3's on tiny earbuds?  (No, I'm not buying this just from Steven Wilson.)

I really miss the quality of an actual recording as opposed to a compressed internet-formated copy...

Oh well

There's a good point in that, anyone continueing to use the earphones that came with their iPod/mp3 player is going to be missing out on quite a bit, regardless of what they are listening to.
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Yes, extreeemely.
 
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I wonder how many people would think the mixes were "muddy" so they "couldn't hear the bass" if they weren't listening to mp3's on tiny earbuds?  (No, I'm not buying this just from Steven Wilson.)

I really miss the quality of an actual recording as opposed to a compressed internet-formated copy...

Oh well
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He is not overrated.  I just wish he would contribute more to the writing process.  Also, he should have more solos.
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