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Topic: Coldplay-X&Y Posted: June 15 2005 at 22:52 |
maidenrulez wrote:
lynton samuel wrote:
spectral wrote:
rubbish band, rubbish album. dull, turgid, uninteresting, rehash of 80s style U2 or Echo and the Bunnymen.
Why all the fuss over a mediocre mainstream band.

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Compared to yes or dream theater, yes indeed. Compared to most pop bands not in a milion years. They are the most original pop band i find it nice to relax abit from 25 min prog epic.
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Agree, everything is relatively speaking...
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Starette
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Posted: June 15 2005 at 22:49 |
Pfft- you're like the progressive version of a Metallica fan who writes 'Eet and F*k' on his school bag. EXTREMELy shortsighted dude.
Have fun crawling into your own little hole.
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spectral
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Posted: June 15 2005 at 04:04 |
Starette wrote:
Dull? Boring? Done before? Oh for Gods sake!! (would use stonger language but I don't want to break the rules here) Maybe you Prog-Rock fans ARE pretentious as they say you are...and if you aren't then I've just met the some of the most fitted to that description.
Let us define the phrase 'Done Before': if you use a musical techinique thats 'done before' are you boring? If you use a chordal progression that's 'done before' are you copying? If you do covers from time to time are you plagarising? Because if that's the case then everything since Led Zep or Genesis may as well be a pile of (once again- would use a stronger word) I can't believe you think that way!!!
So Spectral and Lyton: you just met a couple of hardcore Coldplay fans, and you just struck a tender nerve and Maidenrulz: I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship . (heh- I can be a bit over the top affectionwise, maybe it's time to tooone doooown.)
I love Chris Martins voice, I love the sleepiness of the songs of this band, I believe Careful Where you Stand is the best love-song in the world. Ever. And the chordal progressions they come up with? You can't really get much better. Recommendations from X&Y are 'What if', 'X&Y' and 'Twisted Logic'. I can relate to the lyrics in X&Y in some very painful ways at the moment: that's the thing with me and coldplay!! Ever since I first heard Yellow in 2000, their songs always describe my current position in an uncanny way.
Hehehe I'm a Coldplay geek . Though I have to admit it was quite a bad way to get their name. They were PLAYing football. And it was COLD. That's the *only* shame they have
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you're talking rubbish IMO.
I love the sleepiness of the songs too. I used to suffer with insomnia until I heard coldplay. now I play their albums everynight and fall asleep instantly.
Everything they do is shameful - except for supporting fair-trade. I reckon they should give up the music and concentrate on the charity. It worked for Bob Geldof!
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Starette
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Posted: June 14 2005 at 18:00 |
Dull? Boring? Done before? Oh for Gods sake!! (would use stonger language but I don't want to break the rules here) Maybe you Prog-Rock fans ARE pretentious as they say you are...and if you aren't then I've just met the some of the most fitted to that description.
Let us define the phrase 'Done Before': if you use a musical techinique thats 'done before' are you boring? If you use a chordal progression that's 'done before' are you copying? If you do covers from time to time are you plagarising? Because if that's the case then everything since Led Zep or Genesis may as well be a pile of (once again- would use a stronger word) I can't believe you think that way!!!
So Spectral and Lyton: you just met a couple of hardcore Coldplay fans, and you just struck a tender nerve and Maidenrulz: I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship . (heh- I can be a bit over the top affectionwise, maybe it's time to tooone doooown.)
I love Chris Martins voice, I love the sleepiness of the songs of this band, I believe Careful Where you Stand is the best love-song in the world. Ever. And the chordal progressions they come up with? You can't really get much better. Recommendations from X&Y are 'What if', 'X&Y' and 'Twisted Logic'. I can relate to the lyrics in X&Y in some very painful ways at the moment: that's the thing with me and coldplay!! Ever since I first heard Yellow in 2000, their songs always describe my current position in an uncanny way.
Hehehe I'm a Coldplay geek . Though I have to admit it was quite a bad way to get their name. They were PLAYing football. And it was COLD. That's the *only* shame they have
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Posted: June 13 2005 at 20:48 |
I like 'em. I've just bought the album in question. Once i listen to it, I'll give you my opinion.
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 19:34 |
I would recommend X&Y to any prog lover. Great album
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Logos
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 12:19 |
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 07:54 |
It would say that the flower kings is just a band of braindead idiots that have no ideas for them selves and is just trying to copy yes and genesis. As there is no single new idea in roine stolts head. Ive got 3 flower kings albums all are just plain copies of 70s yes albums.
So if you rate the coldplay as braindead becuase they copy abit from their inspirations then also porcupine tree, flower kings and all these wannabe new 70s prog band are equally braindead.
And by the way if the coldplay sound exactly like radiohead explain to me why i dont like radiohead at all then?
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lynton samuel
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 10:58 |
Logos wrote:
Of course Coldplay is original (IF any band can be called original), but people tend to forget that because tons of bands are copying Coldplay nowadays, since they've sold over 15 million albums. Don't you forget that, spectral. |
tons of bands are copying coldplay? well, i can think of one, keane
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lynton samuel
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 10:56 |
goose wrote:
Logos wrote:
Of course Coldplay is original (IF any band can be called original), but people tend to forget that because tons of bands are copying Coldplay nowadays, since they've sold over 15 million albums. Don't you forget that, spectral. |
No, because Coldplay are also copying a watered down version of a sound Radiohead used to occasionally do. They can carry a tune, I'd just rather they didn't carry the same tune for about four minutes at a time. |
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spectral
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 10:13 |
goose wrote:
Logos wrote:
Of course Coldplay is original (IF any band can be called original), but people tend to forget that because tons of bands are copying Coldplay nowadays, since they've sold over 15 million albums. Don't you forget that, spectral. |
No, because Coldplay are also copying a watered down version of a sound Radiohead used to occasionally do. They can carry a tune, I'd just rather they didn't carry the same tune for about four minutes at a time.
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goose
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 10:11 |
Logos wrote:
Of course Coldplay is original (IF any band can be called original), but people tend to forget that because tons of bands are copying Coldplay nowadays, since they've sold over 15 million albums. Don't you forget that, spectral. |
No, because Coldplay are also copying a watered down version of a sound Radiohead used to occasionally do. They can carry a tune, I'd just rather they didn't carry the same tune for about four minutes at a time.
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Logos
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 10:00 |
the dragon wrote:
Not a great band.
I agre w Spectral, they try to be a clone of Bono boys.
Like DT or Mars Volta try to make prog. |
Well here we have a winner for The Most Pointless Post of the Year.
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the dragon
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 07:27 |
I don't want a band that sound as 70s'.
In fact this week I've bought:
- Magellan - Simphony for a Misantrope; **
- Transatlantic - Bridge across forever; ***
- Porcupine Tree - Deadwing; **
- Derek Sherinian - Inertia. ****
Are those 70s? And You know that Derek Sherinian and Mike Portnoy (Transatlantic) was or are members of... guess?
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 05:37 |
the dragon wrote:
Not a great band.
I agre w Spectral, they try to be a clone of Bono boys.
Like DT or Mars Volta try to make prog.
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Well it is pointless discussing with someone that will not thing that a band that sound totaly as the 70s prog bands or the 70s prog bands themselves. The point of prog music is making new stuff and not do like the flower kings...recyceling it
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the dragon
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 04:57 |
Not a great band.
I agre w Spectral, they try to be a clone of Bono boys.
Like DT or Mars Volta try to make prog.
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Still alive...
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spectral
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 04:45 |
maidenrulez wrote:
And spectral i dont find many simililarities with U2 and coldplay and i think that U2 is far much more guitar based while coldplay is much more symphonic. (Expecially clear on the latest cd wich i doubt you have heard.) And as most pop songs they are 4-5 min songs so expecting something completly new and progresive would be strechin it.
And i do not doubt that you might find similarities with other pop bands i do think you can find similarities on many other bands if you just listen to them hard enough. But coldplay definitly does not just copy other bands they do still contain the classic coldplay sound wich no other band in the world has and they are therefore unique.
But i say again they are not comparable to any prog band in the world, they are a pop band, dont ask of things out of a pop band that would quilify the band to be in some other genre. I think that music does not necerssarly sound completly diffrent or complex or long. You do only need to play a few strings to play a beutiful melody. And that is what its all about.
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I know a lot of bands, mostly independent/non-mainstream who did the coldplay sound 5 yrs ago - so in no way are coldplay entirely unique.
I listen to about 40% prog, the other 60% is of a variety of bands and genres. In my opinion, there are bands occupying the same space as coldplay, but they're doing it 10 times better. the difference is, they're not signed to a major label with the marketing and distributing clout, unlike coldplay. so most people will never hear them.
coldplay aren't prog, nor would anyone expect them to be. but comparing them to other "pop" bands out there, they're just no where near as good. it is the norm with this sort of thing, people rarely scratch the surface, they are content to believe the hype and not bothered about finding better bands.
you're right, I don't own their latest album because they are sh1te.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 14:33 |
lynton samuel wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
lynton samuel wrote:
spectral wrote:
rubbish band, rubbish album. dull, turgid, uninteresting, rehash of 80s style U2 or Echo and the Bunnymen.
Why all the fuss over a mediocre mainstream band.

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Compared to yes or dream theater, yes indeed. Compared to most pop bands not in a milion years. They are the most original pop band i find it nice to relax abit from 25 min prog epic.
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they were original until they released their second album. the two last albums sounds excactly the same. |
There is a really solid change from X&Y from A RUSH OF BLOOD TO THE HEAD. Chris Martin did just use piano on the previous albums and now he uses more synths and keyboards to get a more symphonic effect. And they also made a secret bonus track wich is a more country approach, a track that i have to say sounds like nothing they made before. I think its important that they show that they keep that coldplay sound and make those fantastical beutiful melodies.
They are by far more original than forexample ac/dc and i leave to other bands to be really original.
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 14:28 |
John wrote:
I must agree with all those here who dislike Coldplay intensely. For some reason, many people often compare them to Muse, who I think are brilliant. |
Ah well it is pretty pointless comparing a pop band to a prog band really it can not be compared in any way. I do find HOWEVER that it is a nice variaton playing some pop music after hours of prog music.
And spectral i dont find many simililarities with U2 and coldplay and i think that U2 is far much more guitar based while coldplay is much more symphonic. (Expecially clear on the latest cd wich i doubt you have heard.) And as most pop songs they are 4-5 min songs so expecting something completly new and progresive would be strechin it.
And i do not doubt that you might find similarities with other pop bands i do think you can find similarities on many other bands if you just listen to them hard enough. But coldplay definitly does not just copy other bands they do still contain the classic coldplay sound wich no other band in the world has and they are therefore unique.
But i say again they are not comparable to any prog band in the world, they are a pop band, dont ask of things out of a pop band that would quilify the band to be in some other genre. I think that music does not necerssarly sound completly diffrent or complex or long. You do only need to play a few strings to play a beutiful melody. And that is what its all about.
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lynton samuel
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 14:23 |
maidenrulez wrote:
lynton samuel wrote:
spectral wrote:
rubbish band, rubbish album. dull, turgid, uninteresting, rehash of 80s style U2 or Echo and the Bunnymen.
Why all the fuss over a mediocre mainstream band.

| agree. they are boring  |
Compared to yes or dream theater, yes indeed. Compared to most pop bands not in a milion years. They are the most original pop band i find it nice to relax abit from 25 min prog epic. |
they were original until they released their second album. the two last albums sounds excactly the same.
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